What did you think of the 24: Live Another Day Episode 3? Vote in the poll and leave your thoughts in the comments below.
Tonights episode was written by 24 newcomers Sang Kyu Kim (“The Walking Dead”) and Patrick Somerville (“The Bridge”) and was directed by Adam Kane who is also a newcomer (and Leslie Hope’s husband).
If you missed the episode, you’ll be able to watch it on FOX’s website tomorrow or catch the repeat on TV this Friday at 8:00 PM on FOX.
A HUNTED JACK BAUER TRIES TO THWART A PRESIDENTIAL ASSASSINATION ON AN ALL-NEW “24: LIVE ANOTHER DAY” MONDAY, MAY 12, ON FOX As the hunt continues for Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland), the terror threat is intensifying, much to the chagrin of the CIA and Kate Morgan (Yvonne Strahovski). Across town, President James Heller (William Devane)…
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Behind the scenes video of 24: Live Another Day episode 3 with stunt coordinator Mark Mottram and more.
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May 12, 2014 at 10:00 pm24Nathan
May 12, 2014 at 10:02 pm24Nathan
May 12, 2014 at 10:03 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 11:05 amTony
May 12, 2014 at 10:04 pmGlen
May 13, 2014 at 3:05 pmJack
May 12, 2014 at 10:05 pm24Nathan
May 12, 2014 at 10:06 pmJackBauersgirl
May 15, 2014 at 3:17 pm24Nathan
May 12, 2014 at 10:07 pmGlen
May 13, 2014 at 3:09 pmSnooze
May 12, 2014 at 10:13 pm– 30 seconds later Basher spills the beans.
– Few minutes later and Ritter is suddenly okay with kidnapping Basher.
– Navarro gives them the go-ahead just because.
– Yvonne Strahovski still plays an unconvincing field agent.
XAM
May 13, 2014 at 2:03 pmGlen
May 13, 2014 at 3:24 pm24Nathan
May 12, 2014 at 10:16 pmSnooze
May 12, 2014 at 10:24 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 12:19 pmTrevor
May 12, 2014 at 10:25 pmTube scenes = fantastic.
Sean Callery’s score during Tube scenes = fantastic.
Cried when Chloe told Jack her sad news. Also thought that was one of the best performances I’ve seen Mary Lynn turn in.
The final few minutes…WOW! Never saw that coming at all. I can’t believe Jack shot those fucking people! When I watched it the first time I was in complete shock, when I watched it again I couldn’t stop laughing at “They’re shooting at us!”
Oh, and I’m really glad I’ve decided to not watch clips anymore seeing as though someone just said that final scene was a sneak peek. That’s just stupid.
Trevor
May 12, 2014 at 10:26 pmClayton
May 12, 2014 at 10:30 pmFor one, I’m now on-board with the crew of folks who hold that Chloe is unnecessary. I understand that she’s basically the bridge between Jack and Open Cell, but I’m starting to think even the free information group is out of place here. Last week, it felt intelligent because it seemed like it was offering the writers the chance to launch a legitimate commentary on government surveillance. This week, it seems clear that it’s basically just CTU. As for Chloe… she’s too good at what she does. How in the Hell did she track down Simone to that pub? It went way too quickly. Although I give props to Rajskub for top-notch acting during that little character bit between her and Jack re: Morris/Prescott, she’s the conduit for making the show seem too familiar.
Also, I have to say that the whole chase on the Tube seemed like a waste of time. Honestly, I just saw it as a shallow excuse to get Jack on the subway so the show could feature more of London and manufacture cheap suspense.
On that note, how big is London? Margot’s estate is in the middle of the countryside; how on earth did Simone make it back there within the hour? I usually forgive this element of the show, but she’s in the middle of the friggin’ European countryside. You don’t get there from downtown London in 10 minutes (am I wrong?).
Margot looked like she was going to be a great baddie last week, and she’s continuing to impress, but I can’t help but feel like the writers are laying on the soap opera drama pretty thick with her storyline. The revenge against Heller is fine, but now we’ve got a son, a daughter, and a son-in-law who is falling into the overdone “reluctant conspirator” role all too well. Is this going to get predictable? I mean, already we’ve got a scene where they have to “retrofit the override” to work with the son’s computer setup. That smacks of the usual “re-configuring the trigger mechanism” trope that 24 leans on all the time. I don’t like it.
It was nice to get the tidbit that Heller has been in office for three years, but as a die-hard fan, I’m wondering if that time frame actually works in the universe of the show. Season 7 took place only a few months into Taylor’s term. Day 8 was 20 months later. So let’s say she resigned after two years in office. Heller would only be two years into his term, if that. I’m sorry for getting into the details here, but I think if they’re going to be specific with stuff like this, they should try to actually get it right.
On Heller… his scene with Audrey tonight was basically a rehash of an earlier conversation he’d had with Mark. Look. I love the character drama, and Heller’s story was my favourite from the premiere… but let’s actually further the story here. I think some of 24’s more seasoned writers could have done it better than the newbies. In fact, a lot of the episode seemed like filler. There was really no way to fold some of this stuff into the premiere? With only 12 episodes, the plot has to be sharp, sharp, sharp. And another gripe: Why did Mark have to be right about Heller’s performance in front of parliament? I was longing for a cathartic victory for the president. His failure to perform just wasn’t very fulfilling. If the only point of this plot was to give Heller something to do or reinforce the fact that he’s off his game, there were ways to do it other than putting Heller in front of parliament in a room that was not actually parliament (yes, that did bother me). Bleh.
On Jack’s story… Maybe I wasn’t paying attention, but did he really head to the embassy before he even had the proof that an attack was imminent? It seems like he just asked Adrian Cross to “deliver proof,” as if it’s some easy thing. That’s kind of weak.
Sorry to be negative, but gosh. It’s kind of like the show just decided to deliver a weaker version of the premiere. Maybe it will improve on re-watch. Maybe the nostalgia has now worn off and that was the only thing keeping the premiere in my good graces. I don’t know. It didn’t seem as fresh as it felt last week.
24 Spoilers
May 13, 2014 at 12:14 amThe awkward pacing was probably my biggest complaint. They find Yates in the pub right away, hop in the car and track down Simone right away, get on the train and off the train, a foot chase and escape, all within a span of like ten minutes. (And then Simone gets from the city to the countryside in literally just a few minutes, a single commercial break). It just felt rushed and unnatural.
Absolutely hated the way that Simone slipped away during Chloe’s very brief distraction/moment of grieving, that was extremely lame and far too convenient.
I liked Adrian Cross double-crossing Jack and the clever improvisation that followed. One of the protesters that Jack shot in the leg was actually a rude jerk that was screaming at him just a few minutes earlier, so that was pretty satisfying payback.
The Margot stuff was mostly great, but this Naveed character sort of feels like Behrooz 2.0 to me. I can already kind of predict how this storyline turns out.
I plan to rewatch it soon so maybe it’ll grow on me. I don’t think it was a bad episode, but it was certainly a step down from the premiere.
Clayton
May 13, 2014 at 1:42 amI also hated the way Simone slipped away. The sentimental music that played when Chloe saw the dad and son felt out of place because we, as viewers, were not yet in on Chloe’s story. It was awkward and basically telegraphed that we were going to learn something big very soon. I don’t know how else it could have worked, but I almost wish we had gotten Chloe’s back story first. Either way, it felt kind of forced. It would have made more sense to include it in the first episode when the characters were reuniting.
TJ
May 13, 2014 at 9:36 amI also saw several signs of Season 4 being rehashed/reused:
– the reference to the “over-ride device”, which was the hot commodity in first half of S4 in it controlling the nuclear reactors.
– Margot’s motherly dominance of her child and their relationship very much felt like Dina’s control of Behrooz and his girlfriend.
– Jack having to go rogue in a foreign embassy (which will lead to some hostage/shootout scenes, according to the 4th episode clips), mimicking the S4 intrusion into the Chinese embassy.
– Not sure why some find her fascinating but the Simone character doesn’t appeal to me any more than Behrooz did in S4.
– They may not go the mole angle they did with Marian in S4 but the deception by Cross in the 3rd episode sure felt like an attempt to create the kind of internal dissension that the mole storyline of seasons past created.
24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 12:55 amClayton
May 13, 2014 at 1:46 amSorry… I went off on a tangent there!
Gerry Mander
May 13, 2014 at 2:20 amHaving Graem be the CEO of the Bauer family company – BXJ Technologies – wasn’t a mistake, having him retconned into Evil Brother Bauer most certainly was… and a very large percentage of that season’s problems stemmed from that very wrong move on the writers’ part (and HoGo stated as much in an interview back in 2010).
The other place the writers went badly wrong was in the fascinating character of Hamri al-Assad, who the writers had packed off to D.C. for some inexplicable reason, whereas he should have remained in L.A. and helped CTU track down and take out Fayed and capture the suitcase nukes, there really should have been a dramatic face-to-face between al-Assad and Fayed at some point, alas, that was indeed a wasted opportunity.
Despite these missteps, I still have a soft spot for the sixth season, it was the first season of ’24’ I watched from beginning to end on it’s initial broadcast in 2007, and thus I just can’t hate it the way some do…
TJ
May 13, 2014 at 9:44 amAlex
May 13, 2014 at 9:54 am24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 11:12 amThe biggest one is that Juma’s actor was the police detective in Day 3 that questioned Palmer about Sherry’s involvement with Alan’s death.
Acer4666
May 13, 2014 at 8:04 pmAcer4666
May 13, 2014 at 8:05 pmClayton
May 13, 2014 at 2:10 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 3:48 pmGerry Mander
May 13, 2014 at 10:42 pmI’ve always thought that Graem should have been a darker variation of the Tom Hagen character played by Robert Duvall in ‘The Godfather’ films; in that he runs the day-to-day operations of the family business but he’s not a blood member of the family, whilst Phillip Bauer should have been more a world-weary and cynical individual who’s seen and heard it all and who has an ambivalent attitude to his work and country, and who increasingly let Graem make the big decisions regarding BXJ Technologies, to the point that he is virtually a silent chairman of that company, and who had no idea what was going on behind the scenes… and when he does, it is Graem who kills Phillip Bauer not the converse as happened.
That would in turn set up Jack to essentially be at war with his family’s business, tearing down the Bauer family legacy in trying to save his country… a much better plot development than Evil Brother/Father, Bauer family melodrama, and a derailed season that started SO good!
Judy Hendrixon
May 16, 2014 at 12:34 amI am curious as to what they are going to develope between Jack and Audrey as it is already being set up that the husband’s control issues are going to get him in legal trouble if his forged documents are used. And it is already making a problem in his marriage. This along with his clouded perception of “what Bauer did to Audrey” is not going to bode well for him or Heller. The view has to have come from her dad and whatever twisted version of Jack, his service from Heller’s perspective, and then about his visit/’break in” to see Audrey that he concocted for their consumption! I clearly remember Heller ripping into Jack when he came to be with Audrey and part of what he did was to get in Jack’s face about how everyone pays a personal price because of being involved with him. Thank goodness Jack pushed back and got in Heller’s face about how all he did was what men like Heller had wanted of and from him, and truth be known Heller was really angry with himself over the reality that Audrey had done what he couldn’t be bothered with doing. She was the only one that had gone to China to find Jack while he and the others in govt sent out spies and never went themselves as she had done. I only hope that what Chloe revealed to Jack about how they/feds have come after her and her family because she had helped him doesn’t play into what Heller had dumped on Jack.
Randi
May 13, 2014 at 1:09 amNew West Virginian
May 13, 2014 at 1:19 amThe preview was interesting with Jack actually shooting US Marines in the embassy? And its interesting to note this will now be the third time Jack is attacking diplomatic soil after the Chinese consulate in Season 4 and the Russian consulate in Season 6. The Russians wanting Jack and Boudreau trying to hand Jack over to them is similar to the Chinese wanting Jack in the past and how his brother arranged for him to be captured by them. I hope they don’t end this season with Jack headed to Russia. They also didn’t explain what happened with President Suvarov and if the evidence of their involvement in Season 8 was ever made public like President Taylor promised.
24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 1:33 amClayton
May 13, 2014 at 1:51 amI get the feeling that the show’s love of “reboots” has a lot of collateral damage. In other words, the producers get it in their heads that a season was not successful, and instead of thinking critically about what went wrong, they just ditch everything and try again.
End of season 6: “Well, that didn’t work! Let’s scratch everything and take things to Washington!”
As a result, we actually lose decent characters like Tom Lennox, Noah Daniels, and Karen Hayes. I would’ve liked an update on them. I fear we’re in the same situation now. I think we’re fooling ourselves if we’re expecting any updates on President Taylor.
24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 11:14 am24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 11:20 amTJ
May 13, 2014 at 8:57 pmAll of the other Presidents in the series were mediocre at best.
New West Virginian
May 14, 2014 at 10:16 pmTran
May 13, 2014 at 1:39 amDoesn't make sense
May 13, 2014 at 2:04 amTran
May 13, 2014 at 11:17 amGlen
May 13, 2014 at 3:36 pm24Nathan
May 16, 2014 at 1:40 pmpaul bonnici
May 13, 2014 at 4:06 amI am looking forward to next week when the President and Audrey discover that Jack is in town
TomW
May 13, 2014 at 5:30 amAcer4666
May 13, 2014 at 7:06 amAcer4666
May 13, 2014 at 7:20 amSnooze
May 13, 2014 at 12:25 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 11:20 amTomW
May 13, 2014 at 12:10 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 12:52 pmAcer4666
May 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 3:51 pmAcer4666
May 13, 2014 at 4:08 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 5:10 pmAcer4666
May 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm24Nathan
May 14, 2014 at 9:23 pmhttps://www.24spoilers.com/2014/05/07/emily-berrington-24-live-another-day-interview/
Clayton
May 13, 2014 at 2:15 pmTomW
May 13, 2014 at 2:50 pmGerry Mander
May 14, 2014 at 9:12 pmGlen
May 13, 2014 at 3:30 pmNew West Virginian
May 14, 2014 at 10:17 pmJack
May 13, 2014 at 10:27 amAnd how unrealistic is it when Chloe has surveillance access to all of these cameras, access to a consular visitor access system alongside it’s schematics.
Jason
May 13, 2014 at 12:05 pmSnooze
May 13, 2014 at 12:36 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 12:43 pmGlen
May 13, 2014 at 3:27 pmTJ
May 14, 2014 at 9:38 amJason
May 14, 2014 at 3:33 pmFor the good of the country Mike put aside ego and petitioned for Palmer to serve as Logan’s (highly necessary) counsel in Season 4, and of course played a crucial role in Logan’s takedown in Season 5. I don’t even consider him a gray hat – he’s a white hat who fucked up, and never once was his counsel in bad faith. You can’t compare him to a guy who presumes to act for the president.
The only truly awful thing about Novick is his indirect involvement in what happened to Lynne Kresge’s . Her fate remains an open question.
Robin24
May 19, 2014 at 8:51 pmTiny
May 13, 2014 at 12:48 pmToo bad Renee Walker is dead….
The way Jack looked at Chloe when she told him about her son and hubby just brought tears to my eyes and Chloe didn’t make it any better. Glad he was there to comfort her.
Jack shooting those people had my daughter cracking up and she’s not even a 24 fan.
Gotta love Jack Bauer!
Fanta
May 13, 2014 at 2:21 pmAnyway, the critics seems to love her and find her more convincing as a field agent than in the office.
“One week after saying Yvonne Strahovski didn’t seem to fit in the world of 24, I would like to print a retraction.
Strahovski is terrific in this episode and she masterfully pulls off bad-ass CIA agent out in the field” http://www.tvequals.com/2014/05/12/24-live-another-day-review-100-p-m-200-p-m/
“The show seems to be more focused on what they are trying to do, and they have also brought in some excellent cast members this season”
“Yvonne Strahovski? Easily her best role since “Chuck,” and it blows Hannah McKay out of the water.” http://cartermatt.com/120159/24-live-another-day-episode-3-review-jack-bauer-continues-jack-bauer/
“Yvonne Strahovski works better in a more ass-kicking mode this week than when Kate spent much of last week petitioning Steve Navarro to put her back in the field”
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-24-live-another-day-100-pm-200-pm-just-say-please
“Thankfully, Kiefer Sutherland’s supporting cast continues to impress. Mary Lynn Rajskub acts her ass off as Chloe and Yvonne Strahovski remains a compelling rival for our main anti-hero.” http://screencrush.com/24-live-another-day-review-1-2pm/
Chlojack
May 14, 2014 at 2:37 pmYes, I believe that is the problem that most people seem to have with Yvonne’s performance so far. The critics were almost unanimous in their praise of her performance in episode 3, including two critics who didn’t like her in the premiere. After just three episodes, she’s also being judged against the likes of fan favorites like Kiefer Sutherland, Annie Wersching, Reiko Aylesworth, and even Claire Danes in Homeland. Yvonne is a far
But Yvonne can certainly play a field agent, as she proved during her 5 seasons on Chuck. She’s playing Kate in a more detached manner than she played Sarah Walker, but she’s not playing Sarah Walker in 24. Of the new CIA characters, I think she’s given the best performance. Gbenga in particular hasn’t been that great IMO. I’ve heard he’s been fantastic in other roles, but he hasn’t had much to do on 24 so far.
Chlojack
May 14, 2014 at 2:41 pmFanta
May 14, 2014 at 6:49 pmIn addition to this, Yvonne said she does play her character with “coldness and detachment” This of course make it even more important for the viewer to pick up those subtle details for her not to come off as too flat and boring.
Here is another critic praising her – alot: http://kotaku.com/jack-bauer-really-likes-shooting-people-in-the-leg-1575490778
XAM
May 13, 2014 at 3:30 pmI’ve never been one to nitpick about implausible time jumps, but LAD takes it to a whole other level.
Simone and Derrick escape the West Ealing flat on foot to a pub, which is located next to Kennington tube station which is;
46 minutes away by train,
31 minutes by car,
3h 22minutes on foot,
Yet Simone manages to get there ON FOOT in about 3 minutes?!? go fuck yourself! With Margot being dubbed “The Yorkshire Widow” I’m going to be absolutely horrified if the country house Simone escaped to is actually there… but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was.
As for the whole Al-Harazi household story, Clayton has already talked on this and I can only echo his sentiments. While Michelle Fairley is doing a fantastic job with what she’s been given… what she’s been given is typical 24 muslim terrorist bollocks which is so coma-inducingly tiresome. With a muslim terrorist, there’s absolutely no suspense, mystery or intrigue in what they’re doing, NONE you always know exactly where you stand with them – they want to blow shit up and that’s the end of it. Also, how did a beautiful, high-estrogen woman like Simone end up with a weasely looking low-testosterone call centre worker?
Even though I’m not a fan of Chloe, I felt bad for her regarding what happened to Morris and Prescott. I also realised how weary I’ve become of them destroying the lives of absolutely everyone on the show. It’s no longer hard edged or gritty anymore, it’s just depressing and more to the point tiresome. Chloe should not still be here today, at the end of Day 6 was the perfect time to retire the character and let her be the first one to have a happy ending. On the bright side, this has added some intrigue as to who specifically was targeting Chloe, could it be the people who “think they can take everything away from us” that Tony was ranting about?
Still not feeling the CIA at all…
I don’t like how they’re going for the “Mark Boudreau is a complete one dimensional scheming dick” approach after all.
Not feeling the way the show looks either – too many extreme closeups and bouncy running shots. It doesn’t make me feel like part of the action, it just makes me feel like battering the cameraman to death with a branch.
I still have a little to hold on to, but from being filled with hope and optimism last week, I now feel like my initial impressions of LAD were right, and I don’t like it.
24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 4:00 pmSpeaking of Jack, I don’t see HOW he is going to have a shot at redemption after LAD: killing marines, shooting innocents?
We also must remember that although it is given to us weekly, that our impression of LAD as a whole can only be complete after the finale. We can’t really say anyone’s impressions are right or wrong until after the whole thing. Yes, Margot’s family may be the Araz 2.0’s, but we really don’t know what direction they will take with nine hours left. Same with Chloe, same with Kate, etc. Perfect example: Day 6. People commonly loved it until after the bomb went off, which couldn’t be topped.
Not saying anything about not being able to have an opinion, but be patient and don’t get too discouraged because everything is not perfect three hours in. :)
Jack
May 13, 2014 at 4:09 pm“With a muslim terrorist, there’s absolutely no suspense, mystery or intrigue in what they’re doing, NONE you always know exactly where you stand with them – they want to blow shit up”
Acer4666
May 14, 2014 at 12:15 pmOdd-numbered seasons – a variety of terrorists’ nationality, motives, and threats.
Even-numbered seasons – terrorists from non-specific muslim country, killing americans because that’s what they do, with nuclear threats.
Glen
May 13, 2014 at 3:40 pmClayton
May 13, 2014 at 3:51 pmClayton
May 13, 2014 at 5:44 pmXAM
May 14, 2014 at 5:30 pmHadi
May 13, 2014 at 4:55 pmSo she’s like female jack except she’s not? I recall jack torturing bad guys and getting three names out of them while the fourth name was the true one…lol
Hadi
May 13, 2014 at 4:57 pmpaul
May 13, 2014 at 5:42 pmDAVE PYPER
May 13, 2014 at 6:32 pmXAM
May 13, 2014 at 7:05 pm24Nathan
May 13, 2014 at 7:48 pm24 Spoilers
May 13, 2014 at 9:20 pmDAVE PYPER
May 13, 2014 at 6:57 pmDAVE PYPER
May 13, 2014 at 7:46 pmHrag Yessaian
May 13, 2014 at 8:28 pmJack
May 14, 2014 at 7:39 amPeter Mouland
May 16, 2014 at 5:04 amThe London chase scene, there is no way to get from the entry of waterloo down to that tube line in seconds and for chloe to follow in a car at the same speed as the tube is also impossible.
the episode stank
Luke
May 21, 2014 at 11:34 amSeba
May 14, 2014 at 1:54 pmWill see…
Seba
May 14, 2014 at 1:58 pmDavid
May 14, 2014 at 5:10 pmI am loving the way the tension is building here, plus some great actions sequences. Alas, the Heller in front of the MPs scene was just plain stupid. That would NEVER happen, as the writers should have realised, if they’d done their homework.
Even in a session of the UK parliament, fellow MPs are not allowed to simply shout comments, without the Speaker’s permission, and they are reprimanded if they try. They definitely wouldn’t do that to a visiting head of state, especially not the US president, they would sit and clap politely at the end. Shame that had to spoil the episode for lack of a bit of research.
That apart, it’s got all the really good intriguing plots and sub-plots developing and I feel as I used to feel about earlier seasons – can’t wait to see what happens next.
predictor32
May 15, 2014 at 11:05 amAnd I want to see Jack Bauer faced with some more moral dilemas. One of the reasons I enjoyed seasons 2, 4, and 5 so much is because Jack was constantly faced with morally questionable dilemas of whether he should sacrifice the rights (or lives) of certain individuals for the greater good of his country. In season 2, he threatens Syad Ali that he will order for Sayid’s kids to be killed one by one unless he reveals the location of the nuclear bomb. In season 5, he shoots Henderson’s wife (whose only sin was that she was married to Henderson) in the leg because Jack knew that ‘torturing’ Henderson wouldn’t yield any results. The show needs more of these kind of moments where we as the TV audience can debate whether Jack Bauer was in the right with his questionable actions.
24Nathan
May 15, 2014 at 2:01 pmpredictor32
May 15, 2014 at 2:49 pmIn 24’s previous moral dilemas that Jack has faced, there is usually someone (President, CTU Director, etc.) trying to convince Jack not to do the morally questionable action such as torturing a suspected terrorist but Jack decides to do it anyway because he feels that it is neccessary for the greater good. We dont get any of that in this instance.
Trevor
May 15, 2014 at 4:12 pmPeter Mouland
May 16, 2014 at 5:06 amArthur
May 15, 2014 at 12:43 pmRonnieTheC
May 15, 2014 at 5:13 pmGerry Mander
May 15, 2014 at 7:22 pmXAM
May 16, 2014 at 7:56 pmTelling people to shut off their brains and stop being analytical ‘cos it’s just a tv show is just a reverse of “you just don’t get it” Wire snobbery, but just as annoying.
That’s not to say you should go mad with rage when they weave a certain magic that turns a 20 minute journey into a 10 minute one, but this time they are REALLY taking it too far now that it’s taking the piss. When we’re talking about a 1 hour public transport journey done in 3 minutes ON FOOT, and getting out of the biggest city in the world to the open countryside in 10 minutes, anyone who criticises such carelessness is not nitpicking… they actually have a point believe it or not, because that carelessness has obviously spilled into all areas of the storytelling and characterisation.
Gerry Mander
May 17, 2014 at 1:44 am24 Spoilers
May 18, 2014 at 1:12 pmThey show Simone in the back of the cab leaving the city at 1:19 and by 1:22 she’s already talking to her mom in the secluded countryside. Aside from that being a ridiculously short ride, it seems like a bad idea for a very suspicious lady (out of breath and bloody) to bring a cab driver right to the doorstep of their secret terrorist base of operations…
24Nathan
May 18, 2014 at 1:52 pm24Nathan
May 16, 2014 at 1:36 pmClayton
May 17, 2014 at 1:18 amAlthough I’m not prepared to argue that being a mindless, anti-critical consumer of entertainment is some admirable thing.
24Nathan
May 17, 2014 at 5:31 amI’m not saying they should be able to do anything at any time and get away with it, but I just don’t see this as THAT big of a deal…I mean, terrorists did kill 40+ in a train crash, kidnap and almost assassinate the secretary of defense of the US, gain control of a nuclear reactor and kill hundreds of thousands/severely damage the surrounding environment, shoot down and almost kill the POTUS, as well as steal, arm, and launch a nuclear warhead towards a major US city before being caught, all in one day.
Jack Bauer infiltrated an undercover homebrew terrorist cell, survived a plane crash, was tortured to death, came back to life, then proceeded to thwart a conspiracy to start WWIII all in a day.
So no, I don’t think Simone finding shortcuts should be beyond our wildest imaginations.
Jack
May 17, 2014 at 2:31 pmWould suggest that Jack Bauer and this guy meet at some point. Don’t click the link if you don’t want to know who it is!
Marlon
May 18, 2014 at 3:59 pmClayton
May 19, 2014 at 12:59 amBrad
May 19, 2014 at 1:32 ame_action
May 19, 2014 at 8:29 amGranted I notice it heavily now that I know the realities of travelling in London, so the glaring lack of believable travel time is much more apparent.
On the one hand, as mentioned before, at the end of the day, its fiction, so why not just enjoy these errors for the sake of the story. Which is essentially a lot more important than whether someone can get outside London from the center in less than 10 minutes. Personally for me I can just let it slide for the sake of getting the story to move on quicker due to the 12 episode season.
On the flip side though, I feel like the writers aren’t exploiting the ability to ‘jump’ time as promised when discussing how the real time format was going to work.
With the new formula, why haven’t the writers exploited the ad breaks as a means to jump larger frames of times.
If I had been tasked to format the show with 12 hours, to me, it makes sense for the premiere and final to retain the standard real time format for the entire hour (such as 11am – 12pm). However with the episodes in between, why not set them with a lot more flexibility? Possibly spanning over a hour or two? This would allow for travel to become a lot more flexible and would enable the core of the show to manage the travel time a little more realistically?
Also they could use one of the staple devices that made the show ground-breaking, the split screen, to keep the audience apprised to what the characters are doing.
Keeping the on screen parts in real time, then using the breaks to take greater leaps of time. Even events happening off screen would be pretty good as long as they weren’t pivotal.
It wouldn’t even need to be the entire episode, maybe just one segment.
Just a thought
Ray roberts
May 20, 2014 at 2:21 pmLuke
May 21, 2014 at 11:20 am