What did you think of the 24: Live Another Day Episode 8? Vote in the poll and leave your thoughts in the comments below.
Tonight’s episode was written by 24 co-creator Robert Cochran and directed by Jon Cassar – it’s the 200th episode milestone of the series and it certainly didn’t disappoint. I personally thought this was the best episode of the season and one of the best in the entire series. Curious to see what you folks think, let us know in the comments and poll.
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Comments ClosedClayton
June 16, 2014 at 9:58 pmElvish
June 16, 2014 at 9:58 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 10:04 pmAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 2:51 pmSteve
June 19, 2014 at 3:12 pmCaleb King
June 19, 2014 at 10:03 pmSteve
June 23, 2014 at 11:23 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:33 pmDonna
June 17, 2014 at 7:55 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 2:43 pmIt also seemed odd that Heller, who has always been such a protective father, didn’t seem to think about the impact of having his daughter’s husband involved in facilitating his death. Isn’t there anyone else he could have trusted? It seems like Ron Clark must have known something because he saw Jack taking off in the helicopter with Heller. If we could be trusted to do that why couldn’t Heller have also trusted him to get Jack the Secret Service deployment grids without involving Mark and jeopardizing his marriage to Audrey?
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 3:37 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 1:49 amKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 9:59 pmI may just have to rethink my position on Mark– surprisingly dignified. Kim Raver is such an incredible actress.
Jack
June 16, 2014 at 10:00 pmOh my goodness. I agree – no silent clock?? And I missed the bit about them mentioning the Vice President – did they say who it was?
heller
June 16, 2014 at 10:05 pmXAM
June 16, 2014 at 10:55 pmPresident Almeida confirmed.
Mary
June 16, 2014 at 11:02 pmAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 3:02 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:07 pmI have a feeling the Chloe story line will heat up– unlike her to strike out.
Also, who would ever sign up to be a CTU/CIA clinical doctor? Those poor bastards apparently regularly get held at gunpoint– and seriously they must be positioning Kate for taking over the franchise….
Phee
June 17, 2014 at 7:37 amEvery time we’ve seen Navarro using his phone for nefarious reasons, we’ve seen him put it in that special case thingo that blocks or scrambles the whatever so he can keep his evil calls super secret. Every time EXCEPT for when he took the call from Jordan, and then immediately called the goon to give him Jordan’s location. That means there’s a record of those two calls and I think that’s gonna be the key to Kate busting him. She’s starting to think that something’s up with him, and she can check his call logs, trace the location of the payphone that Jordan called from, follow the blood trail and find Jordan and the dead goon, and then she can match the goon’s phone number to the next number in the call log from Navarro’s phone, and he’ll be busted as the one who ordered the hit on Jordan.
They showed Jordan with eyes closed, not open, and he got included in the final split screen, so I’m still holding out some hope for him to hang in there at least long enough to tell Kate that he’d been trying to dig into the suspect files that mentioned Adam, which could then lead to Kate figuring out that Navarro framed him.
Kiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 8:55 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 10:53 amI think it’s fun how Navarro keeps his Scrambled Phone of Evil in that little side cabinet in his office, just like how Jack used to stash his heroin.
Alicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 3:07 pmKiki Vanderway
June 19, 2014 at 10:17 pmJoe Hart
June 16, 2014 at 10:10 pm24fan24
June 16, 2014 at 10:12 pmMike Novick or Tim Woods would be cool but also unlikely.
kav 24 for life
June 17, 2014 at 10:04 amROBYN
June 17, 2014 at 3:53 pmAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 3:12 pmTony
June 18, 2014 at 7:16 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:34 pmPat
June 18, 2014 at 8:31 pmRebel2477
June 16, 2014 at 10:01 pmAgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 10:52 pmIlovejackbauer
June 16, 2014 at 11:08 pmand I hope the VP is Tim Woods!!
Phee
June 17, 2014 at 8:17 amFWIW, here’s the dialogue:
Chloe: I isolated the drone module and managed to resolve the data pack into three streams. The one that actually controls the drone is impenetrable so far.
Jack: What about the other two?
Chloe: They seem more vulnerable, but I still can’t tell what their function is. I need more time.
Then Heller says they’re outta time and starts walking, and the thing I find interesting is that even though Jack’s not holding his phone up any more, we still hear Chloe saying, “Jack? Jack?” coming through the phone. Why bother with that? Unless…she’s just figured out that one of those data streams is for the drone’s camera and is urgently trying to get Jack’s attention to tell him that she can mess with it?
The time stamps on the copy of the ep I’m using has Heller starting to walk at 40:15, and Margot gets her first visual of the field at 41:43, (though they’re still zoomed out too far to really see details on the field at that point). That’s about a minute and a half that Chloe would have had to mess with the drone’s visuals. Then Margot doesn’t actually pull the trigger until 42:43, which allows another full minute for Jack to be getting Heller out of the way of the the blast while Margot and Ian are watching the loop of him still standing there that Chloe could have rigged up. She’d then have to have switched it back to the legit visual at just the right moment for them to see the blast, but not see that Heller hadn’t been standing there any more.
Then of course there’s still the question of how exactly the targeting system on the drone works. Does it actually have to lock onto a thing that’s physically there, or can it be fooled and just lock onto a visual? If it’s the latter, well then…
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 11:10 amThat kind of thing is 24 at its finest. The emotional impact of the story comes from all the stories affecting one another and intersecting to create moments like that. If they were to take that away in the next episode, it would rob the show of its meaning. It’s a different situation than characters the story tells you are dead popping up as still alive because that has meaning within the context of the story. Anyone who watched Day 1 and got to the backstory of the Drazens was probably at least considering the idea that Victor wasn’t really dead. It worked because it created structure in the plot and was totally soaked in irony. It rendered everything that happened to Jack on Operation Nightfall meaningless which made what was happening to him on Day 1 all the more tragic. To raise Heller from the dead now would just be to take one of the show’s greatest hours and say it was all a cheap trick. A fakeout on 24 is something like the false hope of Naveed saving the day from beyond the grave but cheap tricks are not 24. If President Heller is still alive next week, you can have my house. That’s how sure on this I am. :)
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 2:46 pmBTW, I am curious: in spite of your general dislike of her character, tell me you didn’t feel sorry for Audrey last night.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:33 pmMj
June 17, 2014 at 8:17 pmI will silence all theories about his revival; it cannot happen. The missile hit the center of the stadium and obliterated Heller.
Alicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 3:49 pm24fan24
June 17, 2014 at 12:46 pmLast I remembered, Jack didn’t tell Chloe that Heller was handing himself over to Margot, unless I forgot something?
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 2:47 pmWayno
June 18, 2014 at 6:56 pmLT
June 20, 2014 at 12:39 amROBYN
June 17, 2014 at 3:54 pmMj
June 17, 2014 at 8:20 pmJoe Hart
June 16, 2014 at 10:02 pm24fan24
June 16, 2014 at 10:05 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 10:09 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:13 pmRob
June 16, 2014 at 10:55 pmLove it so much… My sons middle name is BAUER!!
Rob
June 16, 2014 at 10:56 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:21 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 3:55 pmMj
June 17, 2014 at 8:22 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 10:06 pmChase
June 16, 2014 at 10:09 pmJack
June 16, 2014 at 10:11 pmBut the CGI on that Wembley explosion was awful. Perhaps it is fake and planted by Chloe?
Kiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:15 pmCynthia
June 17, 2014 at 6:34 am…but someone mentioned Ian. Maybe he faked something. Still, Heller being alive would be ridiculous.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:36 pmAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:07 pmdavid everitt
June 18, 2014 at 8:00 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:38 pmChlojack
June 17, 2014 at 3:40 pmAgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 11:06 pm24 Spoilers
June 16, 2014 at 11:29 pmPhee
June 17, 2014 at 8:33 amBut even if it does turn out that he didn’t really get killed, I’m thinking that’s a thing that he, Jack and Chloe would keep secret at first, so his resignation would still stand when the hour is up and the VP will still get the gig. And considering that Heller’s illness played into his decision to do this whole thing, I doubt he’d take back his resignation even if he did survive the drone.
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 11:26 amsprite
June 17, 2014 at 12:05 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 12:33 pmAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:17 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:37 pmPhee
June 18, 2014 at 2:04 amI guess they could still show Mark wrestling with his conscience and how to handle the Russians and the pardon and whatnot if Heller’s dead. But there’s more potential for drama if Heller’s alive to put the smackdown on Mark and the whole situation.
There’s more potential for drama if Audrey discovers her father’s alive and so maybe she can’t hold it against Mark as much, and maybe she CAN forgive him, but then the forgery comes out and NOPE. I’m not sure that Mark could really be held accountable if Heller’s not still alive to dispute the signature on that form.
In regards to Audrey and Jack, it’s more interesting if she also has the additional conflict of, “You took my father to the place he was gonna die…but then you saved him.” Does the latter negate the former? Whatever she feels about that, it’d be more interesting to see her work through those conflicting emotions as opposed to just, “How dare you take my father to his death,” and that’s the end of it.
In regards to Jack and Mark, it’s more interesting if we end up with one guy who told Audrey, “No, there’s nothing we can do, it’s too late,” and then the other guy who didn’t give up and worked right up to the very last second in order to save him. It allows the writers to mix things up instead of just tossing both men into the same basket with their roles in Heller’s death. The way they’ve written the Boudreau marriage, we’re just waiting for the final nail in that coffin. Sorry Mark, but you’re the third wheel here because we know that Audrey and Jack have such a passionate and agonising history and that the emotions are still there in present day, so no matter what, Jack’s gonna be written as coming out on top somehow and Mark doesn’t stand a chance at the end of the day. Writing in that point of difference where one had no hope of saving Heller and the other one saved Heller could be the tipping point.
Anyway, I’m not yet completely convinced either way whether he’s dead or alive, just saying, I don’t think that him surviving would compromise the quality of the rest of the show.
Also, sparing Heller means that Jack and Chloe came up with a BADASS last minute plan to save him, and Jack and Chloe working together with limited time like the badass team they are is fun and gives me warm fuzzies. :-)
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 2:09 pmI disagree that Heller surviving would compromise the quality of the show. It would make the show ridiculous and 24 is a lot of things but it isn’t yet into that level of complete bananapants crazy. This isn’t Alias, this isn’t Scandal… there are some rules that apply here and if a missile obliterates your body, you are not coming back from that one.
I love Jack & Chloe as a team but I also like that they don’t always succeed. The team has to fail sometimes in order to up the stakes. If they always came out on top, then there would never be any suspense. I think this has to be a case of them failing because it ups the game for the whole rest of the day and it gives extra weight to everything that’s come before it. How much more eerie is now, for example, that we first saw Heller today looking out his window with his glasses on at the drone protestors, getting distracted while Boudreau was commenting that people aren’t happy about the drone program. Heller says he doesn’t blame them but the hard truth is that he felt they were working. Eight hours later, he’ll be killed voluntarily in a drone strike. It’s the same thing with lines like “I love this city. You can feel the history.” and then having Heller look over London as Jack flies him to his death. All of that great writing goes away if he’s still alive.
I think the Boudreau situation is actually made stronger by the fact that Heller won’t be around to see the rendition order thing play out. It’s a bit of a twist as all day you expected Heller to be in the thick of it when it got rolling but now he’s posthumously in the thick of it. His presidential pardon will go up against the rendition order– two different guys trying to control Jack’s fate. Heller’s absence is more important than his presence here, IMO. It’s a better story if Boudreau has to live with Heller never knowing what he did.
Alicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:32 pmAgentRez
June 18, 2014 at 11:47 pmThat’s a good point you make about Mark giving up while Jack was doing everything he could up to the last second, whether or not he and Chloe managed to save Heller. Maybe it’s not totally fair, because he and Mark had different roles, but I don’t understand why, after Audrey found out, Mark couldn’t have called Jack and asked if there was time for Audrey to talk to her father for a minute before he went out there (which I think there might have been, for about 30 seconds at least).
That’s a good point you make about how it doesn”t really make sense for them to put Jack and Mark in the same boat re. Audrey feeling betrayed. If Jack does somehow manage to save Heller Mark doesn’t stand a chance.
Alicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:14 pmAgentRez
June 19, 2014 at 1:04 am24Nathan
June 16, 2014 at 10:09 pmAnd Sean Callery….words cannot express how beautifully epic that score was when Heller walked out into the stadium. I think that may have been one of the best pieces of music I have EVER heard on a television show. Emmy worthy. Right up there with Lynn McGill’s death music, and George Mason’s.
Bob
June 16, 2014 at 10:12 pmBob
June 16, 2014 at 10:17 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:40 pmLiam
June 16, 2014 at 10:42 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:51 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:39 pm24Nathan
June 16, 2014 at 11:42 pmSorry, I’m done. These are too fun!
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 11:30 amramer
June 16, 2014 at 10:13 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:42 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:46 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:48 pmhttp://24.wikia.com/wiki/Silent_clock
Kiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:57 pmBrad
June 16, 2014 at 10:59 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 11:00 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 11:09 pmAjay
June 16, 2014 at 11:33 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 11:45 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:31 amKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 11:13 pmI was trying to say it wasn’t a silent clock in honor of Heller or anything Heller stood for .
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 11:33 amBrad
June 16, 2014 at 10:58 pm24marathonman
June 16, 2014 at 10:15 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:41 pmAgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 11:29 pmBrad
June 17, 2014 at 2:01 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 12:35 pmMatt
June 16, 2014 at 10:17 pmLAD Fan
June 17, 2014 at 11:09 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:35 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:50 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 2:19 pmOddly, though, while I’m all ‘okay so Audrey’s just going to screw everyone now that her dad’s dead’, my best friend watched the same episode and was saying she now thinks Audrey’s a mole, which she wasn’t sure on before. So who the hell knows :)
Kiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:18 pmAgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 11:30 pmAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:46 pm24marathonman
June 16, 2014 at 10:18 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:18 pmAgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 11:07 pmTrevor
June 16, 2014 at 10:19 pmAnd all I can say is… Wow.
The music when Jack and Heller departed in the helicopter was the same music that played when Jack and Ryan departed from CTU in the helicopter heading to the train yard… Amazing musical throwback.
The music in the final 6 minutes was outstanding too.
I’m crying. A pardon for Jack. Heller dead. Wow. Incredible hour of television.
Alicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:50 pmNew West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 10:19 pmBut if Jack saved Heller, then the drone attack would still be on.
AgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 11:31 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 1:55 amClayton
June 16, 2014 at 10:19 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:45 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:48 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:53 pmAgentRez
June 16, 2014 at 11:10 pmNew West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:19 pmDavid Palmer and Michelle Dessler didn’t get silent clocks when they died. Milo also didn’t get one though he was not AS big a character as the others. I think with the beginning of Season 5, the pacing didn’t make sense with a silent clock. I forgot if there was a silent clock for Curtis, or for all the people who died in the nuclear explosion right after.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 12:07 amNew West Virginian
June 17, 2014 at 12:33 am24 Spoilers
June 16, 2014 at 11:20 pmPresident Palmer didn’t get a silent clock though. And I know that happened before Tony, but it shows that it’s not a sure thing (he was one of the most beloved and honorable characters on the show). Michelle Dessler too. And I’m not sure if I’d consider Curtis and Milo to be “significant” characters but they got snubbed on silent clocks as well.
Jason
June 18, 2014 at 10:40 pmFans seized on the silent clock as some authentication of a death or some metric of a character’s significance (which the idea of “snubbing” plays into), but that’s never been fed by the writers except for maybe that one point when they were desperately trying to fob off Tony’s contrived resurrection as something even remotely plausible.
(Not that I wasn’t entertained by what they did with Tony in Season 7, but in the context of the overall series it served to cheapen the impact of death on a show known for not pulling punches since Teri’s surprise murder. No way no how did they intend anything but Tony’s actual death in Season 5 at the time they wrote it.)
Jack
June 16, 2014 at 10:21 pmDid anyone else laugh at the bit tonight about when Jack was cutting the transponder out of Heller? The way he said something about sticking to being a federal agent and not a surgeon (paraphrasing)
24 Spoilers
June 16, 2014 at 10:31 pmGreat performance by William Devane.
New West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 10:34 pmM
June 16, 2014 at 10:37 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 10:43 pmNew West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:21 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 7:45 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:39 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 4:33 pm24fan24
June 17, 2014 at 9:26 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 12:58 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 4:59 pmImgonnaneedahacksaw
June 16, 2014 at 10:21 pm24marathonman
June 16, 2014 at 10:36 pmTrevor
June 16, 2014 at 10:40 pmM
June 16, 2014 at 10:40 pm24 Spoilers
June 16, 2014 at 10:43 pmIf you look on this site for the season 7 press releases you’ll see that James Morrison continued to be listed in every single one of them even though Bill Buchanan was killed off halfway through. That’s just one of several examples I can think of.
Mary
June 16, 2014 at 10:46 pmLiam
June 16, 2014 at 10:48 pmAgentRez
June 19, 2014 at 1:13 amBrenda Holtz
June 16, 2014 at 11:03 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:42 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 5:03 pmSharan
June 16, 2014 at 10:48 pmBrenda Holtz
June 16, 2014 at 11:05 pmNew West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:22 pm24Nathan
June 16, 2014 at 11:31 pmNew West Virginian
June 17, 2014 at 12:34 amAK47
June 17, 2014 at 8:01 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:43 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 5:05 pm24marathonman
June 16, 2014 at 10:48 pmChloe
June 16, 2014 at 10:56 pmJack
June 16, 2014 at 11:01 pmChloe
June 16, 2014 at 11:05 pmA few thoughts:
-William Devane has been great this season, but I do think Heller dead, based on the episode being a sad send-off and on the previews next week.
-GREAT scenes between Jack/Mark, Heller/Audrey, Mark/Audrey.
-Still not enough Chloe. Although, based on her chat with Cross, I am now even more concerned that she is going to bite the bullet this season.
-I think it will be Cheng behind all of this, which will make for some fantastic moments between him, Jack, and Audrey.
Chloe
June 16, 2014 at 11:07 pmDammit Chloe.
24Nathan
June 16, 2014 at 11:32 pm24fanz
June 16, 2014 at 10:51 pm1.) I think Heller is dead. They specifically showed shots that were separate from the drone feed (i.e., numerous shots that were in actual colours and not through a video screen), when the explosion went off. FOX won’t have an American president taken off the show, so the ‘no silent clock’ is probably how they got around it.
2.) Chloe really concerns me. She clearly said to Adrian that she still believes in what they are doing. Could this solely be hacking? Or, could it mean that she is connected to the Chinese? I give it that by the third/second-last episode, we’ll find out. Anyhow, the fact that Tzi Ma was photographed with the case members and the fact that one of the directors said that Audrey is important in the upcoming episodes makes me think that Cheng is behind all of this.
3.) Who the heck is the VP? My bets are Ethan Kanin, Tim Woods, or — if we stretch it — someone like Tom Lennox/Mike Novick. This should be interesting, as we know he will take charge.
4.) Anyone have any predictions as to who is behind it all?
Cheers!
Kiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 11:03 pm1. Where do the Russians fit in?
2. Is Mark evil or misunderstood?
3. Who benefitted by Navarro setting Adam Morgan up?
New West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:24 pmBut IF he’s dead, the writers got around it by having him resign first so that he dies as a private citizen NOT as the President.
Phee
June 17, 2014 at 9:26 amAt the moment, she can still believe in what she believes Open Cell has being doing because she’s always believed that they were acting in the name of the greater good. But finding out that their leader, the guy whose ideals she completely bought into, the man she trusted to look after her, has been aiding the selling of secrets (even if he didn’t sell anything to them directly) to the freaking CHINESE of all people, surely that will have to shake her belief system.
I can’t see Chloe being tolerant of Adrian once she learns the whole truth. But Adrian still would have essentially been operating under the same set of morals that she and Open Cell believe in, he just pushed it a bit further and in a way that Chloe wouldn’t condone on a very personal level because of her previous knowledge of what the Chinese get up to and how they’ve treated people she cares about.
So if she can’t tolerate what Adrian’s done in that particular case with the Chinese, does that make her a hypocrite if she continues to believe that what Open Cell has been doing is fine? Is there an in between somewhere where she could still believe in the basic idea that there are some instances where information should be shared between governments and the public, but still draw that line that she believes shouldn’t be crossed? Or will she decide that some secrets are secrets for perfectly good reasons, and the Open Cell idealogy is fundamentally flawed and she wants no part in any of it any more? Either way, I think there’s the potential for them to show her being affected in a meaningful way by it before the day is over, and by then she’ll no longer be saying, “Nothing’s changed.”
Mj
June 17, 2014 at 8:33 pmI don’t see Chloe working for the Chinese just because she is romantically involved with Adrian Cross. She is really working with Jack Bauer and I don’t see her going all “Tony Almeida” on us any time soon. It wouldn’t make sense, not after what she has been through, despite her having a new cause thanks to Open Cell.
As far as the Vice President’s identity goes, I have said it before, but I would really like Karen Hayes taking the role. Even though the sixth season was the weakest of the series, she definitely shined and showed how a National Security advisor is important during times of crisis. Therefore, I would like to see her back this season. But, Tim Woods, Ethan Kanin and even Tom Lennox can still take that role as well.
Alicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 5:15 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 10:53 pmMary
June 16, 2014 at 10:58 pmBrad
June 16, 2014 at 11:02 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 11:06 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 11:13 pmPhee
June 17, 2014 at 5:27 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 5:18 pmKM
June 16, 2014 at 10:54 pmStill though, fantastic episode, amazing acting from all involved. RIP.
Ajay
June 16, 2014 at 11:41 pmAquaflute
June 17, 2014 at 12:47 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 5:19 pmBrenda Holtz
June 16, 2014 at 10:58 pmTF
June 16, 2014 at 11:05 pmBrenda Holtz
June 16, 2014 at 11:12 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 12:09 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 6:20 amPhee
June 17, 2014 at 9:46 amIt’s a pretty safe bet that Audrey knew that he was talking about Jack. There’s an interesting dynamic between these guys.
Jack told Mark that Audrey said she was happy and he was a good man. And Mark totally knew he was lying, and Jack totally knew that Mark knew he was lying. And the fact that the truth went unspoken conveyed that Jack has a certain amount of respect for Mark and Audrey’s relationship, because it would have been so easy for him to say, “She seems pretty miserable with you, and I had to tell her to get outta the room because we were about to tear each other’s clothes off.” But instead he respected and even tried to protect their relationship.
Mark told Audrey that it was just someone Heller trusted that was helping him. We know he believes that Audrey will never forgive him for his role in her father’s death, and by not directly implicating Jack, he was kind of attempting to shield him from Audrey feeling the same way about him. He could have easily said, “Look, Jack decided it would be a great idea for him to take your father on a suicide mission, and he left me with no choice but to comply,” but he didn’t, which implies that he does actually have some respect for Jack and Heller’s relationship, and also Audrey and Jack’s relationship and didn’t want to make it even more complicated.
But does Mark really have any concern for trying to protect Jack? Or is it purely about not wanting to cause more angst for Audrey by blatantly stating that Jack took her dad to his death, because the situation is already hard enough for her? Is it really wrong of him if he’s NOT concerned about how Jack feels? It’s understandable that his priority would be Audrey’s feelings, and he’s not obligated to consider Jack’s feelings at all. But Jack clearly WAS considering Mark’s feelings in their earlier Audrey conversation. Basically: Jack > Mark.
Then you’ve gotta think that in the back of Mark’s mind he could be considering that if Heller’s dead, there’s no way for the Russians to prove that the signature was forged, and when this is all over, Jack’s gonna get handed over and Mark will be rid of him. By being perceived as trying to protect Jack now, it means there’s less suspicion on him later. If he threw Jack under the bus by naming him when Audrey asked, then when Jack gets handed over to the Russians, Audrey can throw, “You must be really happy about this huh,” at him, and maybe even a bit of, “I can’t believe my father would sign Jack over to the Russians, YOU must have had something to do with this.” But if, by not giving up Jack’s name, he’s created the perception that despite everything he does have a small soft spot and respect for Jack, then there will be far less risk of accusations against him when the Russians come to collect.
I suppose his motivations could swing either way, and maybe I’m being too hard on him, but I’m just too suspicious of him to give him a free pass and credit him with being classy at the moment.
Kiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 10:39 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 10:40 amtheraserb
June 18, 2014 at 6:51 pmKiki Vanderway
June 18, 2014 at 8:50 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 2:26 pmMark was certain that Audrey won’t forgive him for this and he’s learned today that she probably doesn’t love him but he loves her. By not ratting Jack out to Audrey, he’s protecting Jack’s identity as a co-conspirator and thereby giving Jack another chance with Audrey. Even if Audrey figures it out and it’s a bit of a farce, just Mark willing to make that gesture proves his intentions honorable. He’s come to realize since this morning that Jack might not be who Mark thought he was and I think he figures now that if he’s going to lose the girl, he can at least do it with some dignity.
New West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:15 pmI also don’t expect them to tell us what happens to Simone.
Rebel2477
June 16, 2014 at 11:19 pmKiki Vanderway
June 16, 2014 at 11:23 pmcurious did anyone notice if Audrey looked nine in that picture? Older ? Younger?
New West Virginian
June 17, 2014 at 12:35 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:48 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 1:18 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 1:54 pm-Audrey’s mother’s name was Alicia and she died when Audrey was nine, probably not that long after that photograph at the beach from 9.08 was taken. Jack tells us this when he reminds Audrey of it on Day 6.
-Audrey had been married to Paul Raines for about 8 years and was probably in her early 30s on Day 4 but Richard Heller had dropped out of college not long prior to Day 4, putting him in his early 20s on Day 4. Audrey and Richard were about a decade apart in age, give or take, which is somewhat unusual for siblings, particularly when there are only two of them. It makes sense, though, if Alicia was not Richard’s mother and he was born sometime after she died. The 24Wiki took from what I think was an official guide or something that Richard is Audrey’s stepbrother. That also says that Alicia was not Richard’s mother.
-On Day 4, Heller told Driscoll the story of his second wife, Susan, who died of cancer a few years prior to Day 4. He loved her so much that he still wore his wedding ring on Day 4 and we know he was Richard’s predominant father figure for all of his formative years, so the implication there is that Richard was either Susan’s son from a previous relationship or Heller’s child with Susan. The latter option works if Heller and Alicia were actually divorced prior to Alicia’s death. The show seems to heavily suggest that Richard was Heller’s biological son and I kind of feel like if he wasn’t, it’s something that Richard would have thrown in Heller’s face an awful lot. So it’s not set in stone but it’s conceivable that Heller and Alicia divorced when Audrey was little sometime after happy family time at the beach, when Alicia died, custody of Audrey went entirely to Heller, who remarries either before or after Alicia’s death to Susan, whose son was Richard, who either was or wasn’t Heller’s biological son. Either way, he’s still also Audrey’s stepbrother but could also be her half-brother.
I think Audrey looked younger than 9 in that picture, more like five or six, which would also go along with the idea of the family breaking up at some point before Alicia’s death.
Matt B
June 16, 2014 at 11:23 pm1. No silent clock.
2. As evidence in the episode 9 previews, Margo is still in control of at least 1 drone. Meaning, she didn’t destroy at least one of them. That would go against her word, which they really made a point of during the episode.
My bet is, based on Chloe saying she was close to hacking the drones, that she hacked all but one of them, including the one that ‘killed’ Heller. She probably looped footage or something making it look like Heller was still on the field and let Margo stay in control of the Drone to think they got Heller. Jack was mysteriously nowhere to be found in that last few minutes of the show. You would think they would show him yelling ‘noooooo!’ or something like that after the bomb goes off.
I bet him and Chloe pulled a fast one to fool Margo (and probably most everyone else for the time being, including the viewers of the show, leaving us guessing -or- completely surprised (if you’re a casual viewer) the following week in the sudden twist… classic 24 style.
One final note… Jack doesn’t die this season. He’ll ride off into the sunset either in another season, mini-series or film finally finding love again and being able to ‘retire’ to his family.
New West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:30 pmMaybe Ian takes control after deciding that killing Heller wasn’t enough.
Really good episode, maybe even the best one. And great nighttime shots of London too.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 12:12 amAlicia Renkema
June 18, 2014 at 5:34 pmNew West Virginian
June 16, 2014 at 11:33 pm24Nathan
June 16, 2014 at 11:37 pmBrian Ross
June 16, 2014 at 11:59 pmNew West Virginian
June 17, 2014 at 12:37 amXAM
June 17, 2014 at 8:54 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:49 am24Nathan
June 17, 2014 at 1:01 pm24Nathan
June 16, 2014 at 11:39 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 1:59 amitsbighead
June 16, 2014 at 11:44 pmwill
June 16, 2014 at 11:50 pmNew West Virginian
June 17, 2014 at 12:38 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 1:21 pmClayton
June 16, 2014 at 11:53 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:50 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 5:46 pm24fanz
June 17, 2014 at 12:00 amhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/24-live-another-day-see-3090140
Cheers!
24 Spoilers
June 17, 2014 at 12:07 amJack
June 17, 2014 at 12:07 amChloe pulls up in a Volvo straight after that.. after hesitating (wondering who’s driving the car), Jack Bauer hops in and Chloe said she hot-wired the car.
M
June 17, 2014 at 12:00 am24fanz
June 17, 2014 at 12:05 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:53 amJoey
June 17, 2014 at 12:18 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 12:48 amBrad
June 17, 2014 at 2:12 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 11:54 amtheraserb
June 18, 2014 at 7:06 pmMost likely he’s death but I’m saying that the window for him being alive is open still.
Hmm
June 17, 2014 at 1:06 amJames
June 17, 2014 at 8:53 amHmm
June 17, 2014 at 1:11 pmTran
June 17, 2014 at 1:12 amJonathan G
June 17, 2014 at 1:21 amI loved the throwback music from the helicopter scene from Season 3 with Chappelle. It was so fitting, and it gave me goosebumps. That was always one of my favorite scores in the history of the show, and it was awesome to hear again.
I was a little thrown off by Heller’s quote that this is the worst day of his life…he and and his daughter were kidnapped by terrorists before the president was taken down in AF1. Or what about the day he found out about Audrey’s catatonic condition after getting taken by the Chinese? But then, I guess this day is pretty horrible too, especially after that final scene…
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 1:26 amJonathan G
June 17, 2014 at 1:43 amJonathan G
June 17, 2014 at 2:04 am24 Spoilers
June 17, 2014 at 2:27 amAlso if you remember the seventh season of 24 when General Juma attacked The White House, President Taylor was wearing a tracking bracelet on her arm. Buchanan removed it and ran around with it to throw them off her real location.
AK47
June 17, 2014 at 8:15 amJack bauer had a recording between Charles Logan and the Russian President that implicates the russian involvement. was that recording covered up? all i remember was Charles Logan handing the “evidence” over to President Taylor which was Jacks explanations on what and why he did what he did. I think that will shut the russian up benefit of live another day
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 11:59 amMark
June 17, 2014 at 2:25 amM
June 17, 2014 at 3:17 amMaggie
June 17, 2014 at 3:08 amTomW
June 17, 2014 at 3:12 amBrad
June 17, 2014 at 3:28 am24fan24
June 17, 2014 at 7:01 amThis is still my personal favorite episode of all time…
paul
June 17, 2014 at 3:29 amthat is my theory I may be wright and I maybe wrong
M
June 17, 2014 at 3:48 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 6:44 amDaniel
June 17, 2014 at 4:51 amNew West Virginian
June 17, 2014 at 4:59 amSharanRJ
June 17, 2014 at 5:03 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 6:47 amI am still not sure if Heller is dead or not…I have heard persuasive arguments both ways. But I feel like the way they did the scene was at the very least designed to leave his fate an open question.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 6:48 amBrad
June 17, 2014 at 6:54 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 12:02 pmBob
June 17, 2014 at 7:01 amBob
June 17, 2014 at 7:05 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 12:06 pmBleepbloop24
June 17, 2014 at 7:32 amThey couldn’t have made it anymore obvious. First, the entire episode is a giant goodbye to the character of Heller, second they showed him in center field and a minute later we see ACTUAL footage of the stadium blowing up, not just drone feed so Chloe did not simulate an explosion. They had the call to chloe prior to enforce that jack wasnt giving up till the very end and to maybe generate hope for fans. A lack of silent clock was unfortunate but I would never in a million years surmise that a sound effect would contradict 44 minutes of storytelling prior. And finally the writers full out said in an interview they have a new post team who isn’t up to speed on the silent clock thing. They also acknowledged he is for sure dead. Lol sorry I just can’t believe how much debate there is over this when (at least to me) it’s so blatantly obvious he’s dead.
If for some strange reason he wasn’t dead and Chloe actually did fake it, then that would all be the dumbest thing theyve ever done in the history of the show IMO.
ANYWAYS! I loved the episode! So intense and suspenseful even though on paper not too much happened plot/action wise.
I’m really hoping Jordan isn’t dead and alerts Kate to Navarro. Not just because I like the character, but because otherwise all his screentime this episode would’ve been completely irrelevant from a writing perspective. I loved that he outsmarted the assassin, but if he ends up dying than how would this change anything from him just dying in the water last episode.
Audrey scene was amazing and Sean callers score was beautiful.
Liam
June 17, 2014 at 8:15 amBleepbloop24
June 17, 2014 at 9:01 amYou killed the president! Unless you want us to believe he might have survived that missile exploding…
Manny Coto: No, it’s pretty cut and dry.
So what is the fallout of President Heller’s death?
Katz: It informs the Audrey-Jack relationship in a big way, and the Audrey-Boudreau relationship. Because in Audrey’s mind, Jack and Boudreau led her father to his death — they let him give himself up. That’s going to be a huge emotional blow to have to get through.
Liam
June 17, 2014 at 9:06 amBleepbloop24
June 17, 2014 at 9:50 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 11:57 amThat said, if anyone had asked them between 7 PM and 10 PM in season 6 if Audrey was really dead, do you think they would have said anything designed to cast doubt? Ditto with Heller in season 5, or any other time they pretended to kill off a character (I am NOT talking about Tony in season 5, whom they clearly did intend to kill at the time).
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 12:11 pmI think Heller is absolutely, positively, unequivocally dead. I am less certain on Morris O’Brian. Killing off Prescott off-screen I could see, as he’s a child and you could maybe roll with it, but killing off a former main cast member off-screen in what, based on Chloe’s description, is the most suspicious-sounding car accident ever (it was dark! only one witness! chloe not even there!) makes me think the one who is going to pop up from the apparent dead here is really Mr. O’Brian.
Bleepbloop24
June 17, 2014 at 7:54 amA. There was no footage of heller standing there for Chloe to loop until Margot pulled the drone over the stadium. So that would mean Chloe would’ve had to get enough footage and loop it all in the time span from when the drone first saw heller, to when they fire the missile. And even this doesn’t make any sense because they saw heller as the drone was flying into the stadium from far away AND zoomed in, which means there’s no way Chloe could’ve faked that.
B. Let’s say she somehow did have time to Photoshop a stick figure of heller in the stadium. Margot still saw an explosion on her screen from the missile she fired. Which would mean Chloe would’ve had to extremely precisely time the video to switch from loop footage, to actual explosion footage without Margot experiencing a glitch or seeing a split second of heller disappearing.
C. Everything I said in my last post.
Sorry guys but he’s dead. I apologize if I’m somehow wrong about this but if I am, than it would abandon any form of logic whatsoever.
TonysBeerMug
June 17, 2014 at 8:23 amAlso, one of the first things Audrey screams to Mark when she finds her father’s note is something like, “I’ll never trust you again.” Fine, it’s what we all want, but it’s not something you’d likely shout at someone in a fit of grief and rage.
Sloppy character continuity and weird emotional dialogue would be easy to overlook if I actually thought Heller were dead, which I don’t for one second.
Kiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 9:07 amYou are, IMO wrong, though about Audrey– those lines, the sentiments expressed, the tears, hiccups, sighs, snot …slap, whack & tug on lapels–all of it was classic Audrey Raines. (welcome back, baby!)
so well written so.specific to.her dynamic and so well acted–very satisfying and kudos to Tate Donnovan because he also was so good in the scene.
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 12:18 pmAudrey reacted to Mark more or less about the same way she reacted to Jack when she found out about Paul on Day 4. But I did think it was weird that her comments were so specifically focused on Mark– like how she wouldn’t be able to trust him, etc.. It was like it didn’t truly bother her that her dad was dead as much as that Mark had betrayed her, which I thought was… kind of odd and not as classy as Mark then still trying to be good to her by not naming Jack. But that seemed pretty Audrey to me, all in all.
New West Virginian
June 18, 2014 at 11:37 pmLiam
June 17, 2014 at 8:28 amIn the final splitscreen, Chloe is seen working on her computer. They camera shows Chloe looking at her screen, then pans to her shooting a quick look at something/someone in the room (almost defensive, as if she didn’t want someone seeing what she was doing), and then the camera pans back over to her working on the computer.
But then, their camerawork becomes particularly interesting, as it pans slightly down so that you can just see her computer screen. Making up part of the screen, is a green section, that very much resembles the grass of Wembley Stadium.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 11:59 amSteve Navaro
June 17, 2014 at 8:47 amThe structure, score, scenario, etc were all too reminiscent of 3x18 (Chappelle’s death). That episode was FAR better.
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 2:49 pmAK47
June 17, 2014 at 8:49 amAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 11:53 amAK47
June 17, 2014 at 8:56 amJonathan G
June 17, 2014 at 10:19 amMary
June 18, 2014 at 12:02 pmBrad
June 17, 2014 at 10:32 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 10:44 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 12:24 pmMarlon
June 17, 2014 at 10:51 amHeller is dead reminiscent of Mason, Chappelle and Palmer’s deaths. This is total shock 24 as it’s always been.
Would love to see Jack take on Margot next week and even better yet Kate figuring out where Jordan is and taking matters into her own hands.
and the whole Open Cell thing will open up a whole can of worms for what I think will be a twisty, emotional and shocking finale.
Excellent work !
Jim
June 17, 2014 at 11:11 amKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 11:21 amJack
June 17, 2014 at 11:25 amLiam
June 17, 2014 at 12:05 pmPhee
June 17, 2014 at 12:41 pmJack
June 17, 2014 at 1:10 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 1:32 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 1:33 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 2:10 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:28 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 3:46 pm24fan24
June 17, 2014 at 3:59 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 4:39 pmI found this article which appears to have more pictures with Jack and Heller of scenes that I don’t think we have seen: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2615719/Kiefer-Sutherland-shoots-high-octane-scene-24-Live-Another-Day.html
That said, I am thinking they might have been shot as an alternative ending in the event that Fox didn’t go for killing Heller off. Otherwise, they would have kept these photos under wraps and not allowed them to be released back in April, as they would be a huge spoiler. Plus, they shoot two episodes at a time and last night was #8, meaning it would have been shot with scenes from episode 7, not episode 9.
Kiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 5:49 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 6:14 pmCut to the final edits– the Belchek lines get dropped, they re-shoot the arrival to the helicopter with the other car and thus we have what we had– it makes no sense to have all those pictures also at the stadium (unless we get more of a story on getting Heller out of there without Margo seeing it post-drone explosion)
24fan24
June 17, 2014 at 6:34 pmSeriously, if these writers make this mistake, I don’t think the rest of the season can recover from it.
24fan24
June 17, 2014 at 6:39 pmhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2615719/Kiefer-Sutherland-shoots-high-octane-scene-24-Live-Another-Day.html
The caption to one of the pictures of William Devane in the car says,
“Making his arrival: William Devane was seen arriving to the set in a smart estate car”
Maybe Devane used this car to drive to the set? But then it begs the question why was Branko Tomovic at the stadium?
I’m seriously in denial about Heller still being alive, (because it would ruin the rest of the season) so I’m trying to find every possible explanation as to why these pictures exist. C;
Brett
June 17, 2014 at 10:02 pmhttps://twitter.com/maccageezer/status/477473177808142336/photo/1
http://instagram.com/p/pL5vTWt4dy/
Brett
June 17, 2014 at 10:04 pmhttp://instagram.com/p/pCREm7pgXh/
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 1:10 amMary
June 18, 2014 at 1:13 amPhee
June 18, 2014 at 3:47 amThe release of these photos isn’t a thing that anyone involved in the show would have had control over. The guy who took these pics is essentially a pap. When filming outdoors, in a public space, they can only keep the public a certain distance away, but they can’t stop people from being nearby and snapping pics with a zoom lens, and those pics are the property of the person who took them, not the property of the people making the show. Then the guy who took them just sold them to the Daily Mail.
RonnieTheC
June 17, 2014 at 11:14 amBrad
June 17, 2014 at 11:16 amMary
June 17, 2014 at 12:26 pmTiny
June 17, 2014 at 11:45 amCan’t wait till next weeks episode! Jack will be on a mission!!!
Chuck Diesel
June 17, 2014 at 12:16 pmMj
June 17, 2014 at 12:17 pmThe episode was great overall and the scene between Mark and Audrey was intense. Short, but riveting.
Evren
June 17, 2014 at 12:54 pmNot with Margot…
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 2:16 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 2:17 pmMary
June 17, 2014 at 3:11 pmShe gets cut slack for grieving and everything but I did think it was just plain awful to say “you know he’s unwell” to Mark, after everything. Like, oh now his mental health is a factor, Audrey? Now that it yields results you don’t like? It didn’t matter when he was the leader of the free world but now that he’s made a choice you don’t agree with he was sick and Mark wasn’t helping him? Ick. I wasn’t a fan of that moment. I’m not saying people should react perfectly to terrible news but I felt she could have been more focused on Heller than on Mark in that moment. I didn’t like that she managed to undercut both her father and Mark’s honor in like two sentences but it was worth it just for Mark then responding by not ratting out Jack.
This scenario is great for the last few hours. Mark and Jack more on the same page and Audrey something of an antagonist to both of them because of all of this. Very interested to see how this plays out.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 3:27 pmMary
June 18, 2014 at 2:42 pmRonnieTheC
June 17, 2014 at 1:08 pmAnd I will give you a hint….he cannot walk because he does not have legs!
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 2:03 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 5:54 pmBut why not Derek Huxley? Or John Mason?
Kiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 5:55 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 6:06 pmNew West Virginian
June 18, 2014 at 11:42 pmKiki Vanderway
June 19, 2014 at 10:22 am24fanz
June 17, 2014 at 1:39 pmhttp://www.tvguide.com/News/24-Live-Another-Day-Postmortem-Evan-Katz-Manny-Coto-1083104.aspx
Mary
June 17, 2014 at 3:28 pmI think the ironic thing is that Jack would be okay with being handed over to the Russians, so long as he can do it on his terms. He did murder those diplomats. His own sense of honor says he should be held responsible. He left after Day 8 because he couldn’t find a way for justice to be served. Jack is willing to take responsibility for what he did on Day 8 but he had to run because the Russians were not willing to take responsibility for the deaths of Hassan and Renee. Justice would go unserved and then Jack’s death would be meaningless if he couldn’t first right the wrongs of the situation.
I think Jack’s whole plan today and in his recent year or so of Batman-ing around is to fix the injustices of his life and have his say about Day 8 before he turns himself into the Russians. This makes the whole idea of the rendition order versus Presidential pardon thing sort of ironic. Heller grants Jack what he doesn’t want– forgiveness for crimes he’s committed instead of the opportunity to atone for them and to have his say about the injustices committed by the people he murdered. Boudreau forges Heller’s name (steals his identity and power illegally) but gives Jack exactly what he does, ultimately, want– to be handed over to the Russians so that the Russians can seek whatever justice they ultimately see fit over Jack having murdered their people. What Boudreau did wasn’t right by a long shot but it ultimately achieves a goal Jack approves of more than Heller’s, which grants Jack an easier path in life.
The Russians aren’t ultimately going to care who signed what form when– they’re just waiting to get their hands on Jack and if the VP upholds Heller’s pardon, then the Russians now have issue with Boudreau. Audrey could potentially be in trouble and that would be the height of irony– Mark did all this to try to protect her and she could wind up the “emotionally devastating” result of all of it.
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 4:15 pmJonathan G
June 17, 2014 at 2:47 pmThe timing of everything this season has been really impeccable! The drones, the leaking of confidential information, and the policy of negotiating with terrorists.
Glenn
June 17, 2014 at 3:15 pmWho is vp. I think it has to be a new vp or someone very small. I.e the vp who would not let larry enter the whitehouse in s7 e10
Jack kills Ian and arrests Margo- she implements the chinses maybe.to b honest not sure if I think xeng me come back. The only reason we think he is back is because of a photos and I’m sure they would keep it quiet.i think to have problems wih the Chinese and jack being wanted by the Russians is 2 big storyline to cover at the same time
I don’t think xeng ma or tony comes back.
Russians still want jack. For me this is the most interesting how this plays out.does mark destroy the pardon? Does mark get caught forging heller signature. Do the Russians find out jack has a pardon and threaten mark . Do they then just take jack out the same way the chinses did in s5e24 . Do the Russians put pressure on the British to help.
Personally I think Jordan is alive but either way. Kate must get onto Jordan to find him.Chloe said to Adrian I still believe and he asks her to go to a new home. They clearly were having sex . I think after stopping Margo Chloe goes to cross and then either she clocks that he was working under cover wih Navarro or jack and Kate ask her to act normal and see if she he can get his phone and evidence. I think if maybe Jordan is dead and then maybe cross takes a few calls and Chloe gets suspicious and looks and finds something and then has to deal with it herself.
I HOPE THEY FONISH THE MARHOT STROY SOON AND EMPHASISE ON THE RUSSAIN / cross story .
Please guys less of the heller talk. I’m sure he is dead. Let’s focus on what will happen with the Russians and the cross story and who the vp will be. Also I’m certain there is a big STROY /twist to either come from Eric or marks assistant…….
Jack
June 17, 2014 at 3:50 pmAhh, that explains everything. Thanks!!
Glenn
June 17, 2014 at 3:26 pmLet’s discuss the time jump…. Surely it won’t happen until episode 12 as they have so much going on for episode 9-11. I think it will be 12 hours in 1 episode. I.e the beginning will be 12.03 them 3″45 am then 645 and them 925 and then 10.59.59
I’m sure they wil have it all tied up and this episode will be solely around Navarro cross being bought to justice.kate Morgan being re instated. And jack and the Russians.
Glenn
June 17, 2014 at 3:30 pmM
June 17, 2014 at 3:49 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 4:14 pmChlojack
June 17, 2014 at 3:32 pmGlenn
June 17, 2014 at 3:36 pmWould live to hear how u think it will play out?
Chlojack
June 17, 2014 at 4:43 pmI really liked your idea about the time jumps during the finale. It would be a great way to cover the remaining 12 hours of the day.
Catherine
June 17, 2014 at 4:00 pmGlenn
June 17, 2014 at 4:10 pmty
June 17, 2014 at 4:13 pmAgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 4:29 pmXAM
June 17, 2014 at 5:27 pmLike people have said, if Heller is truly dead they should’ve done the scene in a more dignified manner. i.e. Jack’s reaction, silence, Heller’s charred body, silent clock.
Whether he’s dead or alive, the 200th ep was still one of the best eps of all time, better than every single hour of days 6-8 and up there with the best of 1-5.
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 1:46 amChris H
June 18, 2014 at 3:37 pmHeller is dead! Come on!
AgentRez
June 17, 2014 at 4:31 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 7:15 pmSeba
June 17, 2014 at 9:03 pmAgentRez
June 18, 2014 at 7:29 pmKiki Vanderway
June 18, 2014 at 8:55 pmGlenn
June 17, 2014 at 4:35 pmGlenn
June 17, 2014 at 4:38 pmKiki Vanderway
June 17, 2014 at 7:22 pmChlojack
June 17, 2014 at 5:36 pm24 Spoilers
June 17, 2014 at 6:30 pmI assume he’ll be given more to do now that Jordan has found out about Navarro.
Jack
June 17, 2014 at 6:44 pmI also thought this one looked a bit like Tony lol: http://i.imgur.com/681MdHf.png
But I don’t think it is
M
June 17, 2014 at 7:53 pmXAM
June 17, 2014 at 8:39 pmThis is what Carlos looks like now, so maybe… just maybe
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 1:29 amI think Tony’s coming back but that guy is just not Tony. Trust me. My ovaries do a little happy dance at even the slightest hint of potential cubsmuggery but no such luck here.
Chlojack
June 18, 2014 at 6:17 amChlojack
June 17, 2014 at 7:25 pmBleepbloop24
June 17, 2014 at 6:36 pmSeba
June 17, 2014 at 8:47 pmMy guess: Heller will be back in episode 11:
https://www.24spoilers.com/2014/05/17/kim-raver-gasped-24-live-another-day-episode-11/
Quote: “The writers are so good that they create moments where it’s still a page turner.”
Seba
June 17, 2014 at 8:50 pmSeba
June 17, 2014 at 9:41 pm– Kim Raver should have gasped reading episode 8.
– We have to watch a “final” clip with William Devane talking about the filming of his awesome performance in this episode.
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 1:34 am-If Heller is not really dead, why wait over two hours to tell us?
-Actually, yeah, you’d still have to introduce the VP if Heller wasn’t really dead and took a nap until Hour 11 because someone has to run the country.
-You got an interview with William Devane from USA Today that came out just prior to the episode and talked a lot about his feelings on Heller’s arc. No need for a final clip.
Seba
June 18, 2014 at 7:15 am3-“The country” now is the United Kingdom, and the PM is still alive. I woudn’t worry about not seeing the VP. We are in London.
4-The Final Clip would be exclusively about Heller’s final destination and his facing toward that final ending.
Jack
June 18, 2014 at 8:23 amHeller to Boudreau:
“I wrote a letter to the Vice President. I want you to deliver it to him when I’m dead. The transition should be smooth and if he asks you, I am sure.. that you will serve him faithfully as you have me”
Seba
June 18, 2014 at 9:06 amI think that the whole point about introducing the VP is not to show him/her as someone that we already know. Rather to make a point about Heller’s confidence on Mark.
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 12:16 pmJust because the show is set in the UK and we have Davies still doesn’t mean you wouldn’t have to know who the American president is. There is still the rendition order and presidential pardon stuff to deal with with Jack and two-thirds at least of the main characters are American. It would be absurd for them to never show us who then became the President. Where do Kate and Navarro go for ultimate orders? Who do Mark and Audrey transition power to? Someone’s got to get the new President on Skype here at some point.
The VP likely wouldn’t be in London because Heller was there. I think there’s some kind of rule that they try not to be in the same place at the same time in case of an attack and when situations make it so that they have to be, there always has to be someone else from the order of succession list not in the same location. Like how there’s always someone who sits out the State of the Union address in case of an attack. Considering we’re getting a time jump at some point, the VP/NewPresident won’t have to remain sort of plot-isolated in the States or wherever he is because he could always have a final scene with other characters after the time jump and be video chatting with them for the rest of the day.
Kiki Vanderway
June 18, 2014 at 8:57 pmChlojack
June 18, 2014 at 10:41 amMatt
June 17, 2014 at 10:10 pmTony Laudati
June 17, 2014 at 10:51 pmNew West Virginian
June 18, 2014 at 1:04 amMary
June 18, 2014 at 1:40 amGerry Mander
June 18, 2014 at 2:22 amIt also bypasses the fact(s) that in Season 7, Renee made a choice that torturing Alan Wilson was the only way to get both information about the cabal and get justice for Larry, plus in Season 8, Jack went on a bloody rampage and quite literally tortured someone to death. In addition to all that, Season 7 had black African villains whilst Season 8 had Middle Eastern terrorists.
PC? Get outta here.
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 12:19 pmXAM
June 18, 2014 at 10:38 amTheresa
June 18, 2014 at 1:42 amJJ
June 18, 2014 at 3:52 amJJ
June 18, 2014 at 3:59 amMary
June 18, 2014 at 12:20 pmJackBauerFan1977
June 18, 2014 at 4:20 amJackBauerFan1977
June 18, 2014 at 4:38 amJackBauerFan1977
June 18, 2014 at 5:02 amNew West Virginian
June 20, 2014 at 12:00 ampredictor32
June 18, 2014 at 9:11 amHere’s mine:
1. George Mason – George taking down the plane was ’24’ at its best; heroic and touching. Xander Berkeley (Mason) did such an amazing acting job in those final moments.
2. Edgar – I wasn’t a huge fan of Edgar like most ’24’ fans were but seeing Chloe’s reaction to his death was heartbreaking.
3. David Palmer – It was completely shocking that ’24’ killed off his character in general and even more shocking that they did it in the opening moments of a season.
4. Chappelle – It didn’t bother me that he was killed off because I found him to be annoying but no one expected for Jack to go through with it. Utter shock.
5. Terri – It set the tone for ’24’ that no character was safe and the ‘happily ever after’ concept that most action shows/movies end with doesn’t apply to ’24’.
New West Virginian
June 20, 2014 at 12:02 amI was also very troubled by the possible death of Evelyn’s young daughter. We’re simply not told if they lived or died but I think Henderson would have killed them both.
Seba
June 18, 2014 at 9:18 amHave we seen Heller’s?
Seba
June 18, 2014 at 9:34 amI’m analysing the logic behind the Silent Clock reading this article, specially I’m focusing on “Background sounds”.
Seba
June 18, 2014 at 9:34 amSeba
June 18, 2014 at 10:32 am– The “dead” breathing, means that he/she is still alive. (Palmer, Renee in S7)
– Music means sacrifice. (Mason, Jack in Sangala, Bill, Renee in S8. This last one, I have to think a little more over it)
– Crying means execution. (Teri, Omar Hassan, Renee in S8)
Others:
– Train whistle. (Jack killing Chappelle)
– Waves. (Jack leaving Audrey)
Mary
June 18, 2014 at 12:21 pmSeba
June 18, 2014 at 12:57 pmJ-Will
June 18, 2014 at 11:33 amMary
June 18, 2014 at 12:23 pmJ-Will
June 18, 2014 at 12:28 pmBruce
June 19, 2014 at 3:59 pmOzgur
June 18, 2014 at 3:57 pmBrad
June 18, 2014 at 4:25 pmAgentRez
June 18, 2014 at 5:44 pmRonnieTheC
June 18, 2014 at 4:58 pmhe is still alive. If this is the case, logically, Jack has plans to get Heller out of sight and no one (short of Chloe) will know he is alive. Jack will take the posture that Heller is dead andthis givehim reason, in everyones eyes, to seek revenge. Jack’s plan is for Heller to reappear once the terror threat is over and margot is killed. As I mentioned before, this scenario is unlikely, and Heller is dead. But with 24, you never know. Who would have thought that Tony was alive, or that he would have taken such a bad turn that he would murder a federal agent. The bottom line is…who knows? But no matter what they do, it’s okay with me because it’s just fantasy…a fantasy which I happen to love.
Mike
June 18, 2014 at 5:04 pmV
June 18, 2014 at 5:09 pmONLY THREE EPISODES LEFT!!!
With only three episodes remaining, Jack Bauer’s harrowing day crescendos as he pursues final leads at all costs. The emotional toll of the day’s events escalates when Kate Morgan learns the truth about her husband and Audrey confronts Boudreau about his duplicity. Making matters incredibly worse, the scope of the terror threat widens and the potential devastation reaches new heights in the all-new “Day 9: 8:00 PM – 9:00 PM” episode of 24: LIVE ANOTHER DAY on Monday, June 30 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (TWF-910) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer; Yvonne Strahovski as Kate Morgan; Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O’Brian; Kim Raver as Audrey Boudreau; William Devane as James Heller; Benjamin Bratt as Steve Navarro; Tate Donovan as Mark Boudreau; Michael Wincott as Adrian Cross; Gbenga Akinnagbe as Erik Ritter and Giles Matthey as Jordan Reed
NOTICE THAT BOTH HELLER AND REED ARE LISTED IN CAST FOR EPISODE 10
Jack
June 18, 2014 at 5:23 pmAgentRez
June 18, 2014 at 5:41 pmA.V
June 18, 2014 at 5:52 pmPresident James Heller i still alive, that because he is listed at imdb.com for playing 12 episodes! So the person that commented that he were so sure that James Heller was dead can send the ownership paper of his house to my address :)
Best regards from Sweden,
Jack
June 18, 2014 at 6:20 pmTrefor Edwards
June 18, 2014 at 6:33 pmThe real jack
June 18, 2014 at 6:48 pmXAM
June 18, 2014 at 7:13 pmNarrator “Jack is Back!” bla bla bla
*action montage*
Logan “He must be stopped”
Jack “We’re talking about taking down the president of the united states”
…
*sigh* so yeah! Any other ukers remember that? The Logan reveal was spoiled on massive billboards saying “The President wants him dead”. Whoever put that campaign together needs to be battered to death with bits of wood.
24 Spoilers
June 18, 2014 at 8:40 pmThere was only a span of 2 minutes and 20 seconds from when Heller started walking onto the field until Margot pulled the trigger and the drone fired. Now to break it down some more:
It took Heller roughly 45 seconds to reach the middle of the field – during this time we see Chloe in the top left split-screen and she’s just typing away on her laptop and glancing over her shoulder. She was NOT talking to Jack during this time.
Now the split-screen window closes and we don’t see Chloe or Jack anymore. Heller reaches the middle of the field and stands there for about twenty seconds (of those 20 seconds, half of it was spent taking off his hat and glasses and zipping up his coat – footage that we never saw on Margot’s drone). Then it cuts to Ian and Margot with the drone overhead Wembley Stadium.
There’s just one minute and nine seconds from the last time we physically see Heller standing in the center of Wembley Stadium until Margot pulls the trigger and the drone missile fires. (The split-screen of Chloe disappeared maybe twenty or thirty seconds before, so let’s say at most there’s 1:30-1:40 of time to pull off this plan).
In that time, Chloe would have to do the following:
1) Somehow find a way to record Heller standing there in the field (what is her video footage source?)
2) Successfully hack into Margot’s drone (and we know Chloe was nowhere close just a minute before)
3) Loop that ten seconds of Heller footage in a convincing way. Remember that this isn’t simply a static security camera where you could easily loop footage, it’s an aerial drone that Ian was piloting and moving around constantly. Chloe would have to get footage from multiple different angles at the EXACT location of Margot’s drone for it to fool them.
4) Chloe would need to tell Jack about what she’s doing, so he can quickly run to the middle of the field and get Heller out of blast radius in time. Let’s say it takes several seconds for Chloe to explain things to Jack and about 25 seconds for Jack to sprint to the middle of the field. Jack would then need to spend several seconds explaining the situation to Heller, who would have to agree immediately without any hesitation or questioning. This very old man would then have to sprint out of there Sonic the Hedgehog-style to make it out of the drones blast radius in time.
5) Chloe would then have to trick Margot’s drone into facial recognition AND somehow trick the drone into “locking on” to a non-existent target. Surely these drones use heat signatures to lock onto targets? How do you fake that when it’s an empty field and nobody is standing there?
6) She’d also need to fake the footage of the camera on the drone missile that we see falling from the sky onto fake Heller (again, where is Chloe getting this kind of footage from?).
7) Chloe would need to switch Margot’s drone video feed back to the real one at the exact moment of impact so that the explosion would actually show up on Margot’s end (otherwise it would just be the looping field of fake Heller standing there). Margot and Ian were closely staring at the screen without blinking, so Chloe would have to have perfect timing when switching between all of this faked footage.
8) And lastly, she’d need to display a “Target Destroyed” screen on Margot’s drone.
That is such an elaborate plan to execute within the extremely short time frame they had. Chloe is good, but is she that good? I just don’t see how it’s humanly possible. If you really analyze the scene there’s no way to possibly make it work IMO.
Kiki Vanderway
June 18, 2014 at 9:07 pm24 is masterful at keeping us guessing and looking for clues, finding meaning in the obvious (no silent clock) versus most far fetched data (analysis of what was on Chloe’s screen).
This is exactly why the show is so good and why there is nothing else like it on TV. They toy with us and we drop in hook, line and sinker– inside baseball at its finest.
Team24
June 18, 2014 at 8:58 pm*******************SPOILER ALERT**********************************
Fox latino has shown a promo with spoilers, where the president appears ALIVE with Jack being escorted by a car with Belcheck
The video is not available on the web, appears occasionally on television, I’ll try to record it
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AgentRez
June 18, 2014 at 9:19 pmJack
June 18, 2014 at 9:24 pmDying to see a video of this! Even though I’m the one that’s saying that I’m sick of the sneak peeks showing too much.
Chlojack
June 18, 2014 at 9:32 pmFurryFriend
June 18, 2014 at 9:37 pmChlojack
June 18, 2014 at 9:30 pm@Gannicus8 4h
@24fox heller is alive i see in the latín América trailer
Crazy stuff! Can’t wait to see how they explain this one. Maybe Heller escaped into an underground bunker via a trap door underneath the stadium.
24marathonman
June 18, 2014 at 10:00 pmChlojack
June 18, 2014 at 10:09 pmJack
June 18, 2014 at 10:10 pmAnother tweet also confirms this, saying: “Como Heller se salva, el otro tema ahora es quien esta ayudando a navarro a vender secretos de estado a china?”
or in English if you want it:
“As Heller is saved, the other issue now is who is helping navarro selling state secrets to China?”.
24marathonman
June 18, 2014 at 9:45 pmJason
June 18, 2014 at 9:48 pmFurryFriend
June 18, 2014 at 10:31 pmhttp://team-24.tumblr.com/post/89218773139/attention-this-is-the-latinamerican-promo-of-the
Chlojack
June 18, 2014 at 10:42 pmCan’t wait to find out how they pulled it off.
Gerry Mander
June 18, 2014 at 10:43 pmDo not – I repeat, DO NOT – watch that link unless you want to have a whopping great clanger of a spoiler dropped on you like… well, like a drone missile fired into Wembley Stadium!
This is going to be either the single best or the single worst plot twist in ’24’ history… if they pull this off, it will automatically make this season the greatest of them all, and I’m not kidding!
24 Spoilers
June 18, 2014 at 10:49 pmNew West Virginian
June 19, 2014 at 4:03 amkajunpoon
June 18, 2014 at 11:12 pme_action
June 19, 2014 at 5:11 amdrone
June 19, 2014 at 8:45 am2) Heller told Jack that he has a presidential pardon , but this will only take effect about an hour when Mark must have sent it to the VP, now, Mark will not like Jack to be alive so he will take the pardon out and discard it as soon as he hears that Hiller was killed. This will help him stay away from the Russian and the presidential signature that was forged will not be held againt him, and I believe that was one of the main reasons he even facilitated for Hiller to die.
3) remember 24 is not a love story so if you try to build up one it will be visited by a horrible crash, that then leads to the twist. When Hiller is later confirmed alibe and the pardon was not upheld, Audrey will get mad with Mark and the married will come to an end but the pres may not allow Jack near her also Jack may start having some things with Kate, so before Kate will know that her husband is innocent she might have gone far with Jack so Jack will be in between the two.
4) Adrian will later be the centre of the terror and he might convince chloe to come with him against Jack.
AgentRez
June 19, 2014 at 5:52 pmLT
June 20, 2014 at 12:41 amMatt
June 20, 2014 at 10:58 pmroger lecouteur
June 30, 2014 at 4:21 am