Tonight’s episode of 24: Live Another Day was another big one credited to four writers. The story was by Robert Cochran, Evan Katz, and Manny Coto with the teleplay being written by Adam DaSilva. It was once again directed by Milan Cheylov.
This was another big episode which featured a foot chase, a big firefight, shirtless Benjamin Bratt, both Jack and Kate interrogating Navarro, the death of Adrian Cross, and more.
But the biggest reveal was Tzi Ma returning as longtime recurring villain Cheng Zhi! We told you about this three weeks ago and surprisingly Fox listed Tzi Ma’s name in the opening credits. What do you think about this new development?
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Comments ClosedJack
June 30, 2014 at 9:58 pmAnd holy goodness – they kept Cheng well under wraps (except for that photo)… anyone have any predictions as to what happens next?
Awesome episode by the way.
Sherri
June 30, 2014 at 10:02 pmDaniel Shaw
June 30, 2014 at 10:23 pmJoe
June 30, 2014 at 10:28 pmJack
June 30, 2014 at 10:32 pmDaniel Shaw
June 30, 2014 at 10:54 pmXAM
June 30, 2014 at 11:22 pmDaniel Shaw
June 30, 2014 at 10:53 pmGurtej
June 30, 2014 at 9:59 pmSnooze
June 30, 2014 at 10:00 pm24fan24
June 30, 2014 at 10:02 pm:)
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 12:01 pmJack
June 30, 2014 at 10:02 pmBig Gucci Sosa
June 30, 2014 at 10:03 pmBenny
June 30, 2014 at 10:05 pmTran
June 30, 2014 at 10:05 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:09 pmThese arcs peak too fast and get resolved too quickly — I feel like these transitions are so rushed there is no time to savor and taste– any one of tonight’s focal points could have been extended and I would have been happy to have the theft of the override played out more, the capture of Navarro, Chloe’s mad dash for freedom, the interrogation, the set up the reveal with Adam, the killing room, Cheng, the missile launch, hell I’d even have welcomed a longer see debate with General Useless
Gerry Mander
June 30, 2014 at 10:26 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:48 pmGerry Mander
June 30, 2014 at 11:30 pmI’ll have my people call your people, we’ll do lunch :-)…
Brad
July 1, 2014 at 11:37 amI have never understood the criticism people gave ‘slow’ episodes of ’24’ in seasons past. Granted, a few that were genuinely superfluous or ‘filler’ (hello, Episode 23 of Season 6) but I don’t think ‘slow’ should necessarily be confused with ‘filler’. Many of these episodes featured important character development and I believe that the action of the show has always been principally driven by the characters. The more appropriate term would be ‘pacing’ which is something else entirely. I do miss this and I feel this is one of several reasons why ‘Live Another Day’ isn’t quite clicking with me even though I’ve found it thoroughly entertaining and well executed.
24bauerfan
July 1, 2014 at 6:56 pmI think that season 6 finale is largely great.
(okay, I’m about to go on a tangent about all 24 finales, bear with me)
IMO, it might just be the best final 5-10 minutes of any 24 season finale. This is not to say it is the best finale overall of the series, or that it has the best final scene (even though I adore that shot of jack looking out on the beach). In terms of final scenes/sequences, Season 1 had Teri die, Season 2 has the palmer assassination attempt, season 3 had jack cry in the car, season 4 had the “revival” of Jack. season 5 had jack being kidnapped, season 7 had jack asking forgiveness and season 8 had jack talking to Taylor and Chloe. While all of those were legitimately great scenes to end each season, I feel that the final 10 minutes of every season was often just people congratulating each other and saying goodbye. With the exceptions of seasons 4, 6 and 7, few of them had 5-10 minutes of actual great scenes (the rest waited for the final scene to pull the trigger on a twist). Season 6 has the argument between Jack and Heller, then Jack saying goodbye to Audrey, then Jack walking away. Those are marvelous minutes of legitimately great television.
Benjamin
July 6, 2014 at 1:19 amLive Another Day has essentially done both, when I think either one would’ve sufficed. Since the show is 24, after all, It seems (if the show were to continue,) the best solution would be to continue making 24 episode seasons free from the need to begin airing every year. Let the staff take as much time as they need to flesh out a story. One year, two years, whatever. When it’s done it’s done.
Angelika Kanis
July 1, 2014 at 2:39 amKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:23 amBrad
July 1, 2014 at 11:41 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:06 pmRemember the mini-plot on Day 2 where the terrorists are in a van trying to transport parts of the nuclear bomb that they plan on using to decimate L.A. in a matter of hours but they come across the pool repairman with the flat tire? In order to keep their cover, they’ve got to stop their in-squabbling and help this one guy they plan on murdering later get on with his work day. They’re this guy’s heroes for the hour. It’s classic 24 but there’s no time to do anything like this anymore, let alone actually explore the more major characters in the story, and I feel like these sort of moments were what gave the bigger stories their weight.
Brad
July 1, 2014 at 12:09 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 3:25 pmkajunpoon
July 2, 2014 at 12:07 amMatt
June 30, 2014 at 10:09 pm24marathonman
June 30, 2014 at 10:25 pmEthan Lau
June 30, 2014 at 10:50 pmChlojack
June 30, 2014 at 10:10 pmCan’t believe that Morris and Prescott’s accident wasn’t caused by anyone, and they were killed tragically. Poor Chloe! I am so worried she isn’t going to make it.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:13 pmChlojack
June 30, 2014 at 10:22 pmAgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 11:56 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:24 amBrad
July 1, 2014 at 11:45 amNew West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 9:43 pmPhee
July 1, 2014 at 1:19 amWas it really though? Because right after he told her that, we saw a truck slam into Jack and Kate’s car, and wasn’t a truck slamming into the car the “accident” that Morris and Prescott died in? That’s quite the coincidence, just sayin’.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 12:09 pm24marathonman
June 30, 2014 at 10:10 pmAgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 10:28 pmKen
July 1, 2014 at 1:54 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:10 pmAdam
July 1, 2014 at 6:52 pmC
June 30, 2014 at 10:17 pmAnd the episode 11 promo…hot damn.
Mark and Audrey are so much more fun when they’re snarky and sassy with each other.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:25 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 9:49 pmKiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 8:35 amMark is just a tool. He is committing treason just because he can’t compete against Jack for his wife’s affections. And while we are at it — I love Kim Raver but is she actually worth starting world war three over?
Mary
July 2, 2014 at 9:32 pmKiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 10:33 pmI can give him some benefit of the doubt for at first thinking Jack posed a threat to Heller but Jack never approached Audrey even when in the same building as her it was Audrey who came to him and his first words “you shouldn’t be here” indicate how little a threat he was. Mark took action based on his own selfish need to assert his authority and command and control the situation.Mark was not protecting Audrey he was protecting his turf….if he was a dog he would have ….oh nevermind the dude is just such a weasel
Mary
July 2, 2014 at 10:44 pmHow Mark handled this threat was another matter. Trying to covertly throw Jack to the Russians and forging Heller’s signature isn’t right and it’s not smart and it’s just as treasonous as what Jack’s done, ironically. It is making choices for his family but, christ, look at his family! It’s not like they’re the most mentally capable people on earth. Audrey’s suffered from China and Heller has Alzheimer’s. These two have given the responsibility of sanity over to Mark then get snippy when he tries to do the job they’ve asked him to do. He’s making all the wrong choices but he is for sure in an impossible situation.
24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:21 pmThings are heating up for what is sure to be a heckuva ride from here on out, as if it hasn’t been already.
Music wise, great throwback to Jonas Hodges (Paranoid Friend from the Redemption soundtrack) from Day 7!
And as much as I hated hearing about Cheng returning, his comeback was incredible tonight. Still not thrilled to have him STILL in the picture, though.
Bleepbloop24
June 30, 2014 at 10:29 pmAlso never noticed paranoid friend played this episode but loved the music played towards the end over Chloe in the HQ. Last time we heard it was in episode 2 when jack was tracking Simone
As much as I love Sean callery (he’s the reason I became a composer) I’ve felt like he has been reusing his music and not writing much original and unique stuff for the past few seasons.
The music he wrote in the early seasons and season 5 was so unique and powerful. But the last few seasons of 24 it feels like he’s kind of out of ideas. Everything he writes works brilliantly in the show though. Just long for the cool “bierko enters the gas plant” or “Mandy plan” type tracks again.
Loved the episode too!
Gerry Mander
June 30, 2014 at 11:33 pmBleepbloop24
July 1, 2014 at 12:03 amBut in the earlier seasons and specifically seasons 4 and 5 he was writing amazing original pieces every episode. Really unique sounding stuff. This season he’s reused the same “action music drum beat” probably for at least 7 or 8 different action scenes. I just wish he would write new stuff because he’s brilliant!
Calvin
July 1, 2014 at 2:07 amGod
July 1, 2014 at 4:12 am24Nathan
July 1, 2014 at 9:03 amKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:21 pmI thought he was part of the Chinese government but I guess something happened between 6-‘9? And does it mean Audrey definitely isn’t a mole?
What gets the Crazy Theory Stamp of Approval?
24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:28 pmWhatever happened between him and China, I don’t think will be explained, because he had to have separated from China before Day 6. Raiding a US federal government building and murdering (whom they thought) was the head of the office in cold blood for absolutely no reason would DEFINITELY be considered an act of war against the US. There is no way he was working strictly for China, he had to have just been a dark, off book agent who was willing to give the subcircuit board over just because he loved his country, not because it was his mission as a federal agent.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:44 pm24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:48 pmLady J
July 1, 2014 at 12:17 amAlso enjoyed the banter negotiations of getting a 16 hour series and doing lunch! Will be glad to hostess said lunch.
Chlojack
June 30, 2014 at 11:08 pmGerry Mander
June 30, 2014 at 11:50 pmAgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 10:31 pmRe. Cheng, I am thinking from what Chloe said that he might not have been part of the Chinese government in seasons 5-6 either. It never made any sense to me that the Chinese government could have invaded a US government agency, abducted an American citizen on US soil, and held the daughter of a high-ranking American politician hostage without starting a war with the US. If Cheng were part of some rogue element that would make a lot more sense.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:33 pmAgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 10:36 pmCome to think of it, though, Renee said in season 7 that hours after Tony’s “death”, Jack was abducted by the Chinese government. But she might not have known that Cheng was acting outside the government.
24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:39 pmAnyways, there is no way he could’ve been operating under Chinese authority with the CTU raid.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:45 pm24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:49 pmMj
July 1, 2014 at 7:59 pmNew West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 9:52 pmJoe
June 30, 2014 at 10:33 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:35 pmIn this case Chloengoing rogue and terroristic was the premise not Audrey
AgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 10:39 pmSpeaking of which, I always assumed that her husband committed “suicide” the same way Walt Cummings and Jaime Farrell committed suicide. But from what they said tonight it seems that actually was a suicide. That was such a sad, gut-wrenching scene. I felt so bad for Kate tonight.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:42 pmrick
June 30, 2014 at 11:36 pmAnd not that we havent seen repeditive script/ story lines before ie: ” this is more dangerous than we thought”, Jack said that tonight,, earlier in the day, and in a few other seasons no doubt. That said, I still love the show and am on the end of my seat.
As for Chloe… after everything Jack has been through, with Terri and Tony and Chappelle, and Rene Walker… I could go on, not to mention that Chloe has been there for Jack every time he has needed her. Would they really kill her off? Add another tragedy to push Jack over the edge? I figure Chloe is walking away from this season… alive, in custody maybe.
The time jump hmmmm, Jack solves the plots and flies to L.A. to reunite with Kim, only to be drawn into something that gives us another season or 2… or hopefully more than that
Phee
July 1, 2014 at 1:27 amYeah I’d been thinking it was “suicide” as well, because really, it’s safer for Navarro if Adam’s dead and can’t appeal and have the evidence looked at again, so it made sense that he’d have arranged for it to happen.
Poor Kate, GAH, so sad that she has that last moment with Adam burned into her brain forever. :-(
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 3:28 pm-Tony is a “bad guy” and not really dead.
-President Heller is still alive.
-Jack puts a bullet in Ryan Chappelle’s brain.
-The Chinese show up and kidnap Jack.
-Nina is the mole.
-Jack, Tony, & Gael are working together on a secret sting.
-Jack goes on a killing spree and becomes a traitor to his country.
So, yeah. Sometimes the one thing that doesn’t seem possible is the one thing they’ll do just because it doesn’t seem possible.
TJ
July 1, 2014 at 2:03 amChloe even added a clue to that effect in Episode 10 when she asked if Cross was working with Cheng; Cross said the Chinese paid the best; and Chloe then says that Cheng isn’t working for the Chinese.
Brad
July 1, 2014 at 12:00 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:18 pmEither way, I think he’s pissed off, anti-China and anti-U.S., and is working for the Russians. All the while that Adrian and Navarro thought they were selling secrets to “the Chinese”, they were really just selling them to Cheng. Cheng’s being funded by the Russians, who love that any moles think they’re actually selling stuff to the Chinese, not the Russians. The Russians want the override device to incite a war between the U.S. and China, which they just had Cheng start with the aircraft carrier attack. Everyone will have to prove that the Russians are behind the attack in order to stop a third world war and to stop any repercussions (like having to retaliate), everyone will just agree to say that Cheng was a rogue entity doing his own thing and call it a day. Cheng Zhi’s going to get hung out to dry, big time.
24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:24 pmAlso love seeing Mark and Audrey’s relationship, they are great. And Audrey is terrible at this whole “marriage” thing. Way to give up so easily talking to your husband, the one you’re so “committed” to.
AgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 10:40 pm24Nathan
June 30, 2014 at 10:47 pmAlso, my problem with her started when she was on the “Jack Bauer ass kissing train” after she found out he saved Heller, and had said that she knew he would never allow that to happen. NO AUDREY, he would’ve let that happen if Chloe hadn’t been successful no matter how much he hated to, because Heller’s death would’ve meant saving thousands upon thousands of more lives. Just like when Chappelle had to be executed. And Jack just takes it all in…while Mark has to bear the brunt force of it all like he single handedly piloted the drone into Heller’s face.
Kiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:59 pmHowever in fairness to Audrey Jack has (except for.killing Paul) come through when she’s needed him. He saved her and her father from the terrorists single handedly. saved her from the S5 interrogation and gave up the recording to.save her life, he got her back from Cheng and was prepared to.die for it, he saved her from the evil fast talking psycho doc, clearly she has mythologized him so it’s not a complete surprise that she is putting him up on a pedestal
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 12:21 pmLAD Fan
July 1, 2014 at 2:27 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 3:01 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 6:39 pmJack was not happy about Heller’s plan. He didn’t think it was right. He said so right on the green at the stadium. I said it before but I’m gonna just say it again, if Chloe hadn’t come through I think he would’ve done something crazy and risked his own life in those last moments to save Heller and push him out of the way.
His reasoning would be complex, he has a lot of love for Heller, the plan was wrong to him in his gut, and yes, Audrey’s feelings would factor into it in some sense too. I don’t think Audrey was saying ‘You would never let that happen because you love me too much” She was saying “Because I know you and what makes you tick, I know you would never let that happen.” One of her flaws is not, in my opinion, understanding Jack.
As for her treatment of Mark yesterday, he got what he was asking for and it was appropriately awful. If he wants a happy marriage with Audrey, and she’s willing to stay, he should probably not ask about Jack Bauer. Why set oneself up to fail?
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 7:06 pmSo you think Mark should just shut up and pretend he has a happy marriage with a woman who clearly doesn’t love him? It’s appropriately dysfunctional for 24, that’s for sure ;)
sprite
July 1, 2014 at 8:22 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 9:52 pm24Nathan
July 1, 2014 at 11:15 pmWe still know that Jack has a very strong moral compass, Kiefer has mentioned it in multiple interviews about Day 9 as well. He may be darker, he may have changed after his Day 8 revenge spree, but he still was out saving lives behind the curtain while working for Rask.
sprite
July 2, 2014 at 12:33 amCarson
June 30, 2014 at 10:24 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:28 pmTJ
July 1, 2014 at 2:06 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:41 pmJack Bauer is cleaning house, guys.
He doesn’t want a pardon; he wants to be held responsible, so long as he can be held responsible *tomorrow*, after he’s dealt with all these messy things from his past first. He freely admits that he did what he did on Day 8 but goes up against those who try to arrest him for it while he’s still in the process of trying to make things right. He is the only connection between all of the major players, using a device that is more or less the CIP Firewall Device from Day 7, when Tony Almeida set up several different groups to go after one another in an effort to take out a bunch of people at once. Jack apparently thought that plot was pretty brilliant and now is using it to take out everyone he’s opposed to so he can live with himself– Adrian Cross, Margot Al-Harazi, Karl Rask, Cheng Zhi, the evil faction of the Russians. The override device is the one thing Jack has wanted to get his hands on all day long. He’s been chasing it down since he showed up. We have no idea where he got his information of its existence, except if he’s the one who set all of this in motion. If he’s the one who has gotten all these players to take each other out for control over the ultimate in power, which found its way onto the black market because of Jack in the first place. Isn’t it a little odd that the one who has had her hands on the device all day is the only person on the planet who would only use it for its drone-hacking capabilities and not it’s starting-WW3 capabilities? Margot only wanted to hack the drones to take out Heller ironically because of her husband’s death. It’s not even until after she’s dead that we learn the override device can override just about anything on the planet– that we were safer when Margot had the thing than we were when anyone after her would have the thing. The DOD tech tells Jack and Navarro that he thinks it can hack any U.S. systems but he’s not finished yet. Jack tells Kate on the phone it can hack any *worldwide* government defense systems. How did Jack know that? Maybe because he’s been after this thing all day. He resurfaced in London to use a threat against Heller that he himself put into motion in order to gain more resources through Heller’s backing in order to stop bigger, more powerful enemies, like Cheng and the Russians. There are too many instances in the story so far that only make sense if Jack is at the center of them.
Brad
July 2, 2014 at 3:27 amLogan would not have been brought in, David Palmer would not have been brought in, Jack would not have raided the Chinese Consulate, Jack would not have been forced to fake his death, the entire Sentox conspiracy revolving around Logan would not have happened, David Palmer and Michelle Dessler would not have been killed…and the list goes on and on.
I like that Cheng’s return is representative of Jack’s journey – and his quest for restoration – throughout the second half of the series.
Ethan Lau
June 30, 2014 at 10:26 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:31 pmBut why let him live? Wouldn’t they get rid of him if he knows so much but outlived his usefulness to them?
Ethan Lau
June 30, 2014 at 10:40 pmlins
June 30, 2014 at 10:28 pm24marathonman
June 30, 2014 at 10:29 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:31 pmBleepbloop24
June 30, 2014 at 10:33 pmJoe
June 30, 2014 at 10:34 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 10:40 pmPhee
July 1, 2014 at 2:05 amKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 7:37 amStill how’d he get out?
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 12:45 pmJack
June 30, 2014 at 10:36 pmMatt
June 30, 2014 at 10:45 pmjack24
June 30, 2014 at 11:15 pmKiki Vanderway
June 30, 2014 at 11:21 pmDon’t get me wrong there is no more perfect fit of actor to role as Kiefer is to Jack but Yvonne as Kate is wonderful too and may turn out to be just as great in time
Matt
June 30, 2014 at 11:31 pmjack24
June 30, 2014 at 11:44 pmTJ
July 1, 2014 at 2:11 am..which is why his frequent admissions in interviews about his age and his acceptance/welcoming of this being the true end of the series are utterly frustrating with each increasingly exciting episode we see.
Please, Kiefer, for the love of God, sign on for another season and more!!!
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 1:08 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 6:42 pmGod
July 1, 2014 at 4:19 amTrevor
June 30, 2014 at 11:34 pmPhenomenal episode.
AAA
June 30, 2014 at 11:37 pmAquaflute
July 1, 2014 at 1:22 amwill
June 30, 2014 at 11:38 pmAgentRez
June 30, 2014 at 11:50 pm24 Spoilers
July 1, 2014 at 3:40 amI do think if Jack gets together with anyone it’d probably be Audrey.
AgentRez
July 1, 2014 at 7:58 amPhee
July 1, 2014 at 8:47 amThere was always sexual tension between Jack and Renee. Annie Wercshing has said that in the script, the scene where she slaps him and asks if he feels anything, originally had a kiss in it, but they decided that it was way too early to do that so they changed it. There were unspoken emotions by the time we got to their final scene on Day 7, and those emotions were amplified by what they experienced on Day 8. So even though we only saw them interacting for less than two days, there was still a believable progression of their growing connection. Age really wasn’t a factor with them at all, (though it’s kinda funny to think that had they got married, Renee would have become a grandma).
I don’t think Kiefer and Yvonne have been attempting to portray that same vibe between their characters. He looks at her in a different way to how he looked at Renee IMO. With Renee, he did mentor her (couple of hours spent with him and she was stepping right up to that line), but it took some convincing to get her to do it and she didn’t handle it that well. When he met Kate, she was already hardcore, like a younger version of himself. Where I see their relationship going if the show continues is Jack taking it upon himself to guide Kate in her career so she doesn’t end up as destroyed as he did, because he sees so much of himself in her and sees an opportunity for a do over of sorts. That translates to a father/daughter relationship IMO, not potential for romance.
Brad
July 1, 2014 at 12:03 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 7:47 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:47 pmwill
July 2, 2014 at 12:50 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 10:37 pmsprite
July 3, 2014 at 1:34 amChlojack
July 3, 2014 at 12:30 pmrick
June 30, 2014 at 11:50 pmDK Fynn
June 30, 2014 at 11:51 pmPhee
July 1, 2014 at 1:41 amAgentRez
July 1, 2014 at 7:52 amPhee
July 1, 2014 at 8:50 amAquaflute
July 1, 2014 at 2:08 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:59 pmShawn
July 1, 2014 at 5:03 am24marathonman
July 1, 2014 at 7:33 amKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 7:43 amAK47
July 1, 2014 at 12:02 amKen
July 1, 2014 at 3:04 amI’m sure the writers would like to see this thing go out on a high and a script like that would be a mockery.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 12:48 pmDK Fynn
July 1, 2014 at 12:08 amOkay, so….something that’s been on my mind is this: If you’re the commanding officer of a ship, and you understand the current political standings of your country and another country, and you get an order to fire on the ship of another country, wouldn’t you at least want to make sure the order wasn’t issued in error?
I mean…the sailors on the ship…the CO was just like, “Okay, fire 2 torpedoes.” Other than checking to see that the numbers matched, that was it: no deep thought, no asking, “Why would we fire on them? Should we phone the chief of staff to be sure?”
XAM
July 1, 2014 at 12:17 amSounds more like a logic and plot override device more than anything else.
New West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 10:46 pmClayton
July 1, 2014 at 12:18 amAnd I do sort of understand why you shouldn’t have soldiers questioning orders. I just don’t like it.
DK Fynn
July 1, 2014 at 12:55 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:49 pmFearless
July 1, 2014 at 12:48 amstalyn
July 1, 2014 at 12:59 amTran
July 1, 2014 at 1:11 amMeridith Bloom
July 1, 2014 at 1:17 amRenell
July 1, 2014 at 6:01 pmNew West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 10:47 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:51 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 7:49 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 8:11 pmAgentRez
July 2, 2014 at 5:13 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 10:35 pmBung Holio
July 1, 2014 at 1:00 amYou heard it hear first.
Behrooz
July 1, 2014 at 1:12 am-Behrooz Araz
Meridith Bloom
July 1, 2014 at 1:19 amThe cougar had enough sense not to kill Kim. Smart cougar!
Behrooz
July 1, 2014 at 1:23 amChlojack
July 1, 2014 at 8:24 amNew West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 10:49 pmHmm
July 1, 2014 at 1:13 amBehrooz
July 1, 2014 at 1:15 amMeridith Bloom
July 1, 2014 at 1:15 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:52 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 7:25 pmTran
July 1, 2014 at 1:18 amstalyn
July 1, 2014 at 1:27 amstalyn
July 1, 2014 at 1:28 amDamnItTony
July 1, 2014 at 1:34 amCan’t they just find some actors that can actually speak fluent mandarin?
Aquaflute
July 1, 2014 at 2:20 pmAt least they attempt to let them speak in Chinese to each other in that scene. It is much worse in situations where foreign terrorists would talk to each other in ENGLISH just so audience would understand. Those are much more ridiculous than bad pronunciation IMO.
New West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 10:52 pmM
July 1, 2014 at 1:51 amGod
July 1, 2014 at 4:24 amY
July 1, 2014 at 2:23 amPs- although I doubt it would happen, I think Jack / Kate would be the tin are power couple. Might I say, their child would be good looking, ace, and unbelievable too!!!
Y
July 1, 2014 at 2:24 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 12:54 pmNew West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 10:54 pmmagr87
July 1, 2014 at 3:19 amI think it’s great they brought him back, I think it’s good that the last villain is someone we’re familiar with.
ronnie
July 1, 2014 at 3:49 amshafagh
July 1, 2014 at 5:27 amchris howlett
July 1, 2014 at 6:19 amThis season has truly blown me away, its been 24 at its very best and I pray that Fox will commission at least one more twelve episode ‘event’, the actors have earned it this year for sure!
John
July 1, 2014 at 6:29 am24marathonman
July 1, 2014 at 7:41 amAgentRez
July 1, 2014 at 7:57 amC
July 1, 2014 at 8:44 amI think there’s a decent chance she could go off the deep end just in time for the finale. She’s been holding her shit together remarkably well but she has to crack eventually.
This is where having no backstory on what she’s been doing (and how Mark fits in) since S6 has left some details up in the air. We can all agree that Mark’s “I helped her restore her mental capabilities!” Is a load of BS, but we have no idea what this relationship has been like before today. We’ve caught little glimpses (Audrey angry that Mark treats her like a keepsake, “I can’t talk to you when you get like this”, Mark’s pissing contests with Jack), but you could arrive at multiple conclusions. At best, Mark is good-hearted but overly protective (sees her as fragile, just wants to keep her safe), and at worst he manipulated his way into a position of power by marrying the unstable (I feel like if we had 12 more episodes, we would see a LOT more of this) daughter of a powerful politician, and treats her like she’s made of shattered glass.
We also don’t have a clear timeline: since Heller is maybe halfway through his term, I can only logically think that Mark has known the Hellers for 3-5 years. That would make sense since it wouldn’t look too suspicious (Heller would be just beginning his presidential campaign and would need a Chief of Staff) and Audrey would be somewhat out of the woods. It would have been a marriage of convenience: it would get out eventually that a presidential candidate has a loon for a daughter, and could be devastating to his campaign.
That being said…(woosh, early morning theories), I do think Mark loves Audrey. Somewhat. Maybe. But the reason why this marriage doesn’t work and never will work is because Mark doesn’t see her as an equal. He sees her as beyond damaged goods who needs to be sheltered. He loves her as his delicate, helpless wife because he gets to be her hero. Jack is concerned about Audrey’s well-being but would never act like that towards her – he respects her as an equal. He knows what she went through, but he doesn’t judge or shift the blame around like Mark does. Now that Jack’s in the picture, our favorite former catatonic is really seeing Mark’s true colors. I’m sure she’s suspected how he operates before this point, but Jack being back has given her enough memory jolts to be like, “Hey! Remember when I was an independent woman who didn’t have Tate Donovan around to babysit me? Those were the days!”
I also think Jack and Audrey are endgame couple because of their history (and chemistry) and because Audrey has always been a gentler balance in his life. She can hold her own, but she’s not a quick-tempered field agent or a total doormat. Now that Jack’s lost so many people, Audrey is one of his only links to a past life where he still had hope for (his own) humanity. Also, sista totally still loves hin and how can you say no to a girl who followed you to China (and almost not back) and went through all sorts of horrible shit and is still rational enough to not blame you for her own decisions? Ding ding, we have a winner!
Phee
July 1, 2014 at 9:47 amC, agreed with your assessment of how each man perceives Audrey, and how each of them influences how she sees herself as well. If she’s been treated like the delicate, damaged girl for the last several years, then that’s probably all she thinks she amounts to these days after her bout of catatonia. Seeing Jack again probably brought back memories of not just their relationship, but also of the strong woman she was when they first met. The woman who took it upon herself to go into a dangerous situation to find the man she loved. Granted, that didn’t turn out great for her, but she had the balls to throw herself into that situation in the first place, and the version of herself that’s been shielded and coddled by Mark probably wouldn’t dream of doing anything so ballsy. Seeing Jack again may have brought up some emotional vulnerabilities for her, but it’s also potentially empowering for her to have him around again.
I do think Mark loves her, but really, the circumstances under which they met and fell in love weren’t ideal for him getting to truly know her. He let himself get swept away nonetheless and now the inevitable is happening and it’s falling apart for him. He was already in a hole and he just keeps on digging himself in deeper, the poor, misguided, desperate bastard.
sprite
July 1, 2014 at 7:56 pmC
July 1, 2014 at 9:28 pmAh well, we can speculate…
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 1:00 pmOne thing that kind of interests me is that Jack and Audrey don’t really seem to be a focus of the story, even if the ‘will they get back together?’ question is out there. The day has spent a lot more time concentrating on Jack’s relationship with Heller and Audrey’s relationship with Mark. Jack and Audrey have had one scene and a couple of phone conversations together but not a lot of interaction. It seems a little odd to me. Not really sure how to describe it but you’d think they’d give Jack & Audrey more time in the story if they want them to be the end game of the day.
Aquaflute
July 1, 2014 at 2:40 pmTherefore I believe at best the ending would be hinting that are good chances for Jack and Audrey to reconcile and redevelop their lost romance. I still think they would be the endgame, just that it would happen in a much more subtle way than most of us would expect. That’s why we don’t really see too much interaction between these two in this season. A few scenes showing that they clearly still have feelings for each other is all there is.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 2:58 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:56 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 9:58 pmNew West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 10:58 pmBrad
July 2, 2014 at 4:32 amC
July 2, 2014 at 8:14 amI know some people had a theory that Audrey may have been in touch with Chloe and that both of them may have known he was coming, but I don’t think that’s the case (though an Audrey and Chloe reunion would be totally rad).
Brad
July 2, 2014 at 8:24 amKiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 9:05 amMary
July 2, 2014 at 10:32 pmBrad
July 3, 2014 at 12:31 amAgentRez
July 2, 2014 at 5:16 pmLAD Fan
July 1, 2014 at 3:15 pmhaving said that i dont think jack and audrey will hold hands and dance together in the final scene. but writers might leave it in the open. that is audrey dumps mark and jack be free of all charges and even one step further, jack say audrey , ill give you a call sometimes when i get back to US or something and leave it there.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 3:32 pmAquaflute
July 2, 2014 at 6:59 pmBut anyway this could all be my wishful thinking, because I’ve always seen Audrey as the last chance of Jack’s happiness so I want her to be with him. I feel they deliberately left Audrey’s fate in the open at the end of Day 6 to preserve that chance for Jack. And the only reason they bring her back now is to give him a potential good ending.
That being said, at this point, I’m really much less concerned about Jack and Audrey’s relationship. With Chloe in so much danger that could potentially lead to one the most devastating death in the show, she’s all I care about right now.
Mary
July 2, 2014 at 10:30 pmLet’s not forget that Jack is a traitor to his country who confessed to murdering foreign diplomats to Audrey herself. If we want to make this a morality debate, he’s no more on the up-and-up than her forger husband.
LAD Fan
July 3, 2014 at 10:19 amJohn
July 1, 2014 at 8:24 amchris howlett
July 1, 2014 at 8:32 amPat
July 1, 2014 at 9:35 amCalled the Cheng thing since the first episode. Damn I like being right lol
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 1:01 pmShannon Ryan
July 1, 2014 at 11:02 amI think Jack and Kate will take out all those Russians but this will cause Cheng and his men to leave and not have a chance to kill Chloe. Then Jack will be told about Cheng by Chloe, so I can’t wait to see his reaction to this and Audrey’s. It seems doubtful Mark will be able to contain his duplicity much longer, which means Audrey’s life is gonna fall into chaos within the next hour… gotta love it!
Marlon
July 1, 2014 at 11:13 amI knew Chloe would deceive Cross. Proves she was just playing along till she had an opp to take the override.
Jacks interrogation methods are so well thought through. Remember him and Nina in Season 2 when Mason flipped out?
I can see why they brought back Cheng since he is linked in with Jack, Audrey and Heller. I’m happy with his return and would love to see him killed. The promo for next week shows Audrey saying ‘kill him’ which is obviously refers to Cheng.
I’d like to know what Chengs motives are too.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 1:15 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 7:32 pmTony’s speech was inspirational in part because he knew everyone and understood what needed to be said and delivered it well.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 7:38 pmSome of the lines, though, are *very* similar to Tony’s speech. Like he’d watched the video back in the academy kind of similar lol.
24Nathan
July 1, 2014 at 11:35 pmKiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 8:46 amPhee
July 2, 2014 at 12:52 pmA thing that bums me out about Mason’s death is I reckon him interacting with Chloe would have been all sorts of fun.
Kiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 3:23 pm24Nathan
July 2, 2014 at 4:33 pmsprite
July 7, 2014 at 12:30 amMary
July 2, 2014 at 10:26 pmRonnieTheC
July 1, 2014 at 11:24 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 11:56 amIt’s possible Adrian lied to her to try to bring her some kind of peace before they died. I’m not sure how that works for the plot. It seemed like they were trying to wrap up the open question they had left in 9.03 when Chloe described what had happened to her family. The “evidence” he could have found could have been the identity of the driver who fled the scene and then he could have determined that this guy wasn’t working for anyone and it really was an accident. He also could have discovered that the whole thing was faked to keep Morris and Prescott safe and never told Chloe that because he didn’t want her to leave and also because it would have endangered her family if she knew. If Adrian found that out, he wouldn’t have told Chloe if they were about to die because that would have just been cruel and that defeated the purpose of what he was trying to do in that scene, I think.
24Nathan
July 1, 2014 at 11:40 pmThey also said 24 was over in 2010. There’s a lot more that goes into it besides Howard and Kiefer, no matter much in charge of the show they are. Fox wanted more 24 back during Day 8, Mary Lynn has said to not count out the 24 movie or a tenth season, and so much more. Anything could change, I won’t believe anything I hear about this being it until for sure after I see the ending, and then for a while after that while Fox makes the decision if they want to continue.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 11:46 amThe Good:
-Adrian Cross’ motivation being crazy of course but not evil, want to watch the world burn-kind of crazy. Extreme greater good. Made him interesting. Too bad we got all of it in an exposition dump scene when it would have been more interesting if it was actually an arc. Exploring Adrian more than just making him Shifty Scrambled Caller would have made a better story.
-Jack & Kate teaming up. Great mentor-protege stuff. I like that Kate gets Jack’s good advice and some dad-like empathy. Great stuff there.
-Cheng. My least favorite recurring antagonist was pretty entertaining and that Open Cell slaughter was one of the first true surprises this season. Chloe having to watch her Substitute Edgar gasping out his last again was just brutal.
The Bad:
-No one seemed to care why Navarro did what he did. I get that he’s kind of Kate Morgan’s Nina Myers but not exploring Nina’s motivations was a major weakness of the former series that it looks like they plan on repeating. Hoping they can bring Navarro back in future seasons and get into it a little more because he went from intriguing to one-dimensional muahahahaha villain in one scene flat. Very disappointing, especially in a season of fairly complex antagonists on a show that has done some really interesting things with them in the past.
-Apparently, the only time Jack thinks he went insane and got no satisfaction was four years ago. It was good for him to mention to Kate how pointless and meaningless all of that was for him and say aloud how much of a mistake it was but I couldn’t help but feel like Jack only feels that way because people are holding him accountable for it. He murdered Victor Drazen and Christopher Henderson and Nina Myers in revenge but never paid a legal price. I think this would have been a stronger comment if he told Kate it was never worth it, not that it just didn’t happen to be worth it four and a half years ago.
-Morris and Prescott dying in a true accident = good. Ironic as all hell. Jack still not yet having any direct consequences for the actions of Day 8= very, very bad. I have hope in Jack saying that his actions destroyed what was left of his family, along with the frequent mentions of them today, means that we will get to see those consequences but, right now, the only person who seems to have suffered as a result of Jack’s actions on Day 8 is Jack himself. That’s not very 24. Actions on 24 have karmic retribution and consequences. You try to kill Victor Drazen, eventually your wife winds up dead. So far, Jack slaughtered nine people on a killing spree four and a half years ago, seven of whom were not even directly involved in the conspiracy (Novakovich’s security staff) and, to date, the consequences have been that he goes on the run for awhile until we get to Day 9, when everyone spends the day changing their mind about him and calling him the second coming of Christ. Interestingly, *Jack* doesn’t seem to want a free pass- he didn’t want the pardon from Heller, he admitted to Audrey that he killed those people on Day 8, he seems to want to be held accountable, if held accountable on his own terms. I’m interested in Jack having told Kate that his actions destroyed what was left of his family but based on what Navarro said when he had no motivation to lie in the premiere, it seems like Jack’s family is fine. Hopefully, there will be some kind of twist here because I am not a big fan of Jack not suffering any kind of repercussions for Day 8 in the story.
Brad
July 1, 2014 at 11:55 amBrad
July 1, 2014 at 11:57 amJack would more or less be ultimately responsible for her death. In the grand scheme of things, that is. If he hadn’t gone on his revenge spree in Season 8, the Russians wouldn’t have been after him in the first place.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 2:16 pmPhee
July 1, 2014 at 1:28 pmIt was rather brutal, but I liked that the last one left alive, who Chloe happened to get there just in time to see die, was Substitue Edgar.
Also liked that Cheng had his goons invade Substitute CTU.
And that Chloe was like Substitue Morris being forced to reprogram the device of evil by the terrorist.
Made me all nostalgic, it did.
“I think this would have been a stronger comment if he told Kate it was never worth it, not that it just didn’t happen to be worth it four and a half years ago.”
I was fine with him using the Renee aftermath as a particular example. They’ve gotta have enough exposition to fill in the gaps for any potential first time watchers (like they had Chloe do when she told Cross about Cheng), without bogging down all the dialogue with a full history lesson. Also, him focusing on just one incident amps up the emotion of it IMO. A general “I’ve killed a bunch of people for revenge, and it’s never really been worth it,” has less punch than, “I lost this one person that meant a lot to me and went on a killing spree.” And Jack losing Renee is comparable to Kate losing Adam, so they could have the characters relate to each other on that level. Kate didn’t need the full list of his revenge kills at that point in time. Just because he didn’t mention the others, I don’t think that means they didn’t also affect him.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 3:13 pmAlso agree that I’m being nitpicky on the revenge comment, which I really did love a lot. I think the situation with Adam and Renee… hmm. I see it. On a suicidal comparison, maybe, but I got a ton of Tony & Michelle-projecting out of the whole Adam Morgan thing as well. The four years ago thing does pack a wallop and it’s all basically like “don’t become me, Kate” and I loved that. So much. I just miss the old-school characters Jack had more in-depth relationships with. I’d rather someone with older ties to the plot just popped around the corner than Cheng and kind of cranky about how much I’d rather be watching more of the Russians and/or Alan Wilson as the focus of the story right now. I’ll be fine when Kim shows up after the time jump lol.
Kiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 7:38 pmThe Jack providing mentoring advice to Kate– meh– he tried to do that with Renee and look how that turned out. So I am not sure he was being that direct on don’t become me– I think he was saying the brutal truth is good people sometimes do unthinkable things and if you believe the choices you are making will bring closure or peace or acceptance it won’t–
Reminded me more of George Mason’s speech– You want to be a real hero, this is what you do, you make thing right with your daughter, you find a way to forgive yourself and you continue serving your country….
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 8:07 pmThe only thing is Jack told Kate in their earlier car drive chat that he’s basically been taking revenge on a whole bunch of terrible terrorist organizations for the last 11 months. He set up Karl Rask to get revenge on him a few hours earlier in a scenario that basically had Kate herself being tortured for nothing because we know the bank transactions were faked and there is no current connection between Margot and Rask. Jack is knee-deep in a plot that includes Adrian Cross (guy Jack hates for screwing with Chloe’s head), the evil Russian faction (Day 8, unfinished), Margot Al-Harazi (old Rask client Jack knows from over a year ago who hates his father-figure Heller), and Cheng Zhi (Jack’s big nemesis.) What. A. Total. Coincidence! Gee, Kate, do you think Jack might be after a little revenge of his own here? He is a ‘do as I say, not as I do’ kind of guy.
24Nathan
July 1, 2014 at 11:47 pmAdam
July 1, 2014 at 7:37 pmNina’s background was explored in 24: The Game.
In short: she was working for Max and his agenda must have been the same as the one in Day 2.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 7:54 pm24Nathan
July 1, 2014 at 11:52 pmChlojack
July 1, 2014 at 12:43 pmMatt
July 1, 2014 at 12:56 pmChlojack
July 1, 2014 at 1:06 pmC
July 1, 2014 at 7:18 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 1:14 pmI didn’t want to bring this up again because I thought the idea might be done and buried but uh, what of yet another scene around Heller’s medication (Daddy! Don’t mix them with booze!) and the fact that Audrey looked like she was ready to jet off that tarmac in Air Force One and get the hell out of dodge, if not for Dammit!Mark! bringing them a reason to stay.
Is it me or is there just something different about her?
sprite
July 1, 2014 at 8:07 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 9:46 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 10:05 pmC
July 1, 2014 at 9:49 pmI don’t know if I saw it here or not, but in the earlier episodes this season (before she reunited with Jack onscreen) there was a ton of bitching about how bored Audrey looked (okay, mostly people claiming Kim Raver is an awful actress), and even I was suspicious of her lackluster response when she heard Jack was back (which I think was what led many of us down the path of “Audrey could be a sleeper agent/mole for the Chinese” theory, which was admittedly nuts). Someone else noted that apart from the Parliament bit, she was just very slow to react and not really with it – which sounds a lot like somebody who is/who’s been catatonic.
And I think that’s some damn brilliant acting on Kim Raver’s part (I’m not sure if it’s the writers, because they’re juggling a lot with these series and there’s not much time to insert such things) – we have no idea just how much Audrey has recovered from her time in China. Yeah, Mark can go on and on about how he totally helped her “restore her mental capabilities” or some crap, but just because she can count to 50 backwards or be in a relationship with someone doesn’t mean she’s anywheres near 100% OK. She could be (okay, probably definitely is) suffering from some very serious PTSD or something worse, and this is where the show is paralleling real life: despite the treatments available, the average person doesn’t “get” PTSD. And it’s different for everyone – some people shut down when triggered, or become extremely upset/violent. This is Hollywood, so who knows.
Meanwhile, at Club Commons (and the White House, and elsewhere), everyone has been cheerfully going about their business without really addressing Audrey’s past (I can imagine a deleted scene where Heller angrily tells a staffer to butt out of the family’s business – hee!). I know in some of her interviews, Kim Raver has mentioned that Audrey is “more outspoken and independent”, but other characters “definitely treat her differently” after what she’s been through. We haven’t seen much of the latter (besides Mark, lol) but I thought it was interesting because I’ve always seen Audrey is an independent and highly intelligent character to begin with, which was one of the reasons why her and Jack worked so well. Because there’s so much secrecy around this show, I’m pretty sure she was subtly hinting at what the main point of what I was trying to say: this is not the Audrey we once knew, whether we like it or not.
And I wish we could explore it more, but I’m fine with speculation.
thank y’all for putting up with my winding theories
sprite
July 1, 2014 at 10:09 pmC
July 1, 2014 at 10:30 pmZzz. Haters gonna hate.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 10:38 pmChlojack
July 2, 2014 at 11:48 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEV8r3dJAmQ
sprite
July 3, 2014 at 1:39 amChlojack
July 3, 2014 at 8:03 amC
July 4, 2014 at 11:58 amMary
July 1, 2014 at 10:13 pmI’d have ignored all of this if we didn’t have what Kiki called below that creepy Shining moment in the hall, coupled with another reminder about Heller’s pills that implies that those things have got to be important still in the plot, and the way that you can read every single Audrey scene this season as just what it is *or* that she’s got a secret. Usually, if you can do that? It’s the secret that wins out.
sprite
July 1, 2014 at 10:29 pmI could see being wrong about the pills but I don’t see clues to Audrey having a big secret. I mean, she could, it would be cool if she did. Though I think the only secret that would make sense is one that somehow helps Jack and maybe has been helping Jack all along. Though I guess suicide or her just actually not being recovered at all are also options. But gosh would that be a downer. And at least for me not in a cathartic Arisotelian way as 24 tragedies tend to be.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 10:47 pmI can’t help but feel like a lot of the earlier scenes of the day aren’t just to illustrate who Mark is but to show who Audrey has become, which ultimately might be just as important.
I was throwing out the pill bottles as just a symbol of Heller’s Alzheimer’s even after he survived Wembley until last night, when we had a totally unnecessary to the plot reminder of them. It would still be very fitting for Heller to die this season and the easiest way to go back to that would be the pills. If it circles back to them and it turns out that they were important all along for another reason, then that’s something else that could somehow factor into Audrey’s story. Maybe her dad dies and she loses it. Maybe someone in this plot is trying to kill Heller. Maybe Heller doesn’t even have Alzheimer’s. All the questions come back again since they made a point to show us the pills again when we didn’t need them in the scene at all.
C
July 1, 2014 at 10:42 pmBut their relationship is totally toast. I figured it was as soon as the show started, expected it after he let Heller give himself up, and this week confirmed it.
It would definitely be cool (okay, really really rad) if she has some kind of major secret, but that would be more likely in a full season. I just don’t think there’s time for it, because I feel like there would’ve been subtle hints at her agenda throughout the way. Either that, or they’ve been playing us – which would be super awesome, but I don’t think that’s what they’re setting out to do. I think the writers want us to think there is, but I have absolutely no idea what is. I just don’t think Audrey is that manipulative. She is definitely colder than we’ve seen her, and now she’s starting to play her husband’s game.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 11:02 pmAudrey was manipulative in a more subtle way when we first met her. She basically goaded an uncomfortable Jack into saying he loved her on Day 4, she pressures him to get back together on Day 5 when he’s initially not ready for an answer. Ironically, it was Audrey back then acting like Mark is now– desperate to know that Jack still wanted her and only her. This kind of isn’t new behavior for her but it’s really pronounced now, it seems. Maybe to some kind of end game because hey, why does she need Mark anyway? Her dad has been on the verge of stepping down all day. She’ll no longer be the de facto First Lady. Fewer public eyes on her. She could divorce Mark and run off with Jack the traitor if she felt like it and it wouldn’t really impact anything, so why is she determined to honor this commitment in the first place?
C
July 1, 2014 at 11:07 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 11:22 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 11:23 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 11:49 pmBut then it’s a few scenes later when she decides to tell him that she’s falling in love with him. The look on his face is one of total discomfort. He’s not really ready to have said something yet, or he would have said it already. Instead, he starts babbling about how he didn’t know he could feel this way since Teri (keep in mind that Audrey’s read Jack’s file and Day 4 takes place six years after Day 1. Teri Bauer was murdered about six years ago this month.) The same woman who spends the day going back and forth over whether or not to divorce Paul is carrying on with Jack, keeping him on the hook. I’m not saying she had evil intentions or anything but I’m saying she had that kind of not-so-guileless manipulation that a lot of woman have when they’re trying to keep a man from bolting out the door. Jack wasn’t ready for that step, even if he was getting close, but he has to say something because she said something, and Audrey knew he would, or else she wouldn’t have gotten them into that stage. She didn’t look at all lacking in confidence that Jack would say he returned her feelings but she also knew that she was suggesting to him that saying them was what she wanted. It apparently didn’t occur to her that maybe he wasn’t quite ready for that step and what it might mean going forward, not just with her but with their relationships with her dad, etc.. On Day 5, she keeps interrupting Jack on his mission with a reminder that she’s super-available, while he’s not so sure. He literally tells her he has to think about it at one point and she pushes again later on. It’s probably half the reason why he wondered if maybe she really was a mole, even if it didn’t add up for him, and wasn’t true.
I know Audrey isn’t exactly awesome when it comes to men (Walt Cummings, much?) but she also knows how to get what she wants out of them and guileless is not quite how I’d describe her with Jack. She genuinely cares for him but she’s not always like… pure about her ways of showing that.
sprite
July 2, 2014 at 1:20 amAudrey as a character was a victim of the structure of Day 5, the only way to get in those bonding moments in the first half was with her making those calls and yeah, the timing wasn’t good. But I 100 percent don’t think Jack’s “I have to think about it” was because he didn’t feel as strongly for her as she did for him, it was because he didn’t know if he could return to civilized society. But at the end of the day, right before the kidnapping, it’s very very clear how invested he is in a future with Audrey.
I’m gonna have to say rewatch the footage on your season 4 analysis. When Audrey is stuck with all that exposition in the top of that scene, she is very firmly on Jack’s side. The dialogue is all her telling him that he was wrongly forced out of his job, that he has nothing to be sorry for and that he was in the right. She is unflappably supportive. Maybe Jack is uncomfortable talking about it, but I think it’s pretty clear that he shared it with her in the first place. And he doesn’t change the subject. She asks if he misses his old job. He says no, that he wanted something different from his life… (sorry Jack! lol) and goes on to tell her how special it is for him to able to connect with someone this way. Even going so far as to say ‘It may not seem like a lot to you’, implying how huge it really is for him.
As for her declaration of love. It is in this same scene in the hotel room, right before they go downstairs, not a few scenes later. Jack kind of deflects and gets smiley and awkward. (What show is this? haha) He says he’ll see her downstairs and I always read Audrey’s face after that as ..”hmmm, I hope I didn’t make him feel weird right there…” She doesn’t bring it up again, he does.
Then they see each other downstairs, go on about their business pretending not to be a couple in front of her father, share a little knowing glance, and that’s it.
Their next interaction later in the episode is when Jack calls her. She’s not pushing it. They talk about his meeting, all work, she is ready to get off the phone and Jack keeps her on. With enough urgency is his voice that she clearly thinks something bad/dangerous has happened and he’s about to inform her.
But he’s just that keen to make sure she knows that he was in fact not uncomfortable and that he is feeling the same way. She even tries to stop him when he mentions Terri, saying that she understands (presumably that he’s not where she is yet) but he pretty forcibly tells her, no you don’t understand, I’m falling in love with you too.
And then they have the closest 24 comes to cute as they finish their phone call, all smiley and oblivious of the horrors to come. (scratch that, Jack and his grand daughter were full on cute)
I think, in watching those scenes it’s pretty clear that she is concerned about his feelings, his readiness to move forward in their relationship, his wellbeing. I think she means it when she says ‘I don’t need you to feel the same way.’
I think when he tells her he is falling in love with her and she says she’s caught off guard that’s she’s being completely honest there too. I don’t think she’s in the space of trying to hold onto a man or being strategic about it at all. She’s still in the first flush of love.
As for her flip flops about the divorce. She was very certain of her feelings at the start of the day and only began to waver at all after seeing a violent pretty scary side of Jack. And then after he was directly responsible for the death of someone who despite her no longer being in love with, had been family to her for years. I
really really don’t get the criticism of her questioning her feelings for Jack/her decision making on that day. (questioning her feelings doesn’t mean they’re any less strong I think). If she hadn’t had at least the level of distress/confusion/questioning that she did in reaction to all that violence and mayhem, she’d be pretty clearly a sociopath. And you know, not a good choice of mate.
Ok… that was a lot. But I was for some reason, compelled! This show does me in.
Kiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 9:12 amsprite
July 2, 2014 at 3:59 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 11:26 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 11:37 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 11:57 pmClearly he was right to be afraid, but it was disrespectful to hide it from her and worse to do what he actually did by selling out Jack. If he had trusted her with the information, maybe she would have felt closer to him and Jack’s reemergence in her life would have meant less. (It also would have showed trust in the strength of their union which he pretty clearly doesn’t have.) If there was any way she would love Mark more at the end of this day and be more invested in her marriage rather than in her past relationship it would only have been if Mark had told her immediately when he heard about Jack. But Mark didn’t trust her, (and it sure would have been boring if he had!) thus making it even easier for her old Jack feelings to burst right in.
Mary
July 2, 2014 at 11:03 pmsprite
July 3, 2014 at 1:45 amMj
July 2, 2014 at 7:12 pmCaptCleghorn
July 1, 2014 at 2:37 pmFINALLY!
Chlojack
July 1, 2014 at 4:57 pm24 Spoilers
July 1, 2014 at 5:05 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:33 pm2. What girl sees a port-a-potty (port-a-loo?) and thinks oh yes, gotta go!
There was no way that was gonna work….
Renell Couzart
July 1, 2014 at 2:43 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 2:50 pm*And I love Jack!! :)
Renell
July 1, 2014 at 6:07 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 6:52 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 7:51 pmJack as a character is not a good bet for a love interest. Objectively speaking this dude has had a death wish ever since Teri died — he was ready to make his kid an orphan rather than ask anyone on the tarmac if they would be willing to fly the plane with the nuke to the dessert — not exactly a family first kind of guy. No question he found his footing later on and improved but still not a good long term bet–
But what he is – in spades is loyal, powerful, committed and unwavering and those are the character traits that Audrey will respond to and so will Kate but for VERY DIFFERENT REASONS. Kate is not going to be a romantic interest nor by the way will Chloe (ewww) but they are drawn to him, respond to him, will work hard to do what he asks them to do– but not because of a romantic or sexual attraction.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 7:58 pmJust because a woman is in a scene with Jack doesn’t mean that any connection is sexual. They all respond to different things in Jack for different reasons *just like a lot of the men around Jack do.* I’m so over this idea that every woman who is okay with Jack should marry him and have his babies. Michelle Dessler is rolling her eyes at these posts lol.
Kiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:10 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 8:16 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:47 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 8:12 pmsprite
July 2, 2014 at 2:47 amKiki Vanderway
July 2, 2014 at 8:48 amJACKISBACK
July 1, 2014 at 2:50 pmRenell
July 1, 2014 at 6:00 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:11 pmC
July 1, 2014 at 9:56 pmPhee
July 2, 2014 at 12:57 pmTommy
July 1, 2014 at 3:33 pmAdam
July 1, 2014 at 7:43 pmPat
July 1, 2014 at 8:40 pm24Nathan
July 2, 2014 at 12:21 amPat
July 2, 2014 at 4:26 pm24Nathan
July 3, 2014 at 1:42 pmMilo Pressman, CTU *bang*
July 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm24Tom
July 1, 2014 at 3:55 pmOn the one hand, he was without a doubt one of the shows most ridiculous and horribly cringe-worthy ‘Big Bad’s’ and his presence only serves as a reminder to season 6 which was the show’s lowest point and worst season.
On the other hand, 24’s writers have been known to build big conspiracies around major villains and then sweep them under the rug and forget about them pretty quickly (Max and the Alan Wilson storylines come to mind). It’s nice to get some sort of closure on Cheng and the Chinese storyline. I appreciate the writers giving the audience the respect they deserve by returning to old storylines. Far too often the writers ignore the shows continuity in order to streamline the plots for specific seasons.
2 episodes left? There’s a lot to wrap up!
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 4:08 pmPat
July 1, 2014 at 8:41 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 9:30 pmPat
July 2, 2014 at 4:27 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 10:02 pmPat
July 3, 2014 at 5:43 pmKim makes sense too. Tony, it could work, and I hope so, but I don’t see it. Unless he and cheng were in the same prison and he busted out when cheng busted out and cheng somehow helped alan wilson escape so Tony is trying to get payback on cheng and has been searching for him, then winds up face to face with Jack, I don’t know.
Phee
July 2, 2014 at 1:12 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 9:59 pmPhee
July 4, 2014 at 12:18 amPaula
July 1, 2014 at 4:58 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 5:59 pmKate exists so that when Jack eventually wants to go see his granddaughter’s school play instead of saving the world for awhile, he at least knows there is someone like him carrying the torch. Someone who will inevitably call him to chat or help her take out some common enemies at some point in the future. She’s way more important than just the next poor lady to wake up in his bed and have her life destroyed before she inevitably dies.
Kiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:14 pmsprite
July 1, 2014 at 8:16 pmAnd really guys…. did you see the scene where Jack saw Audrey again? That was pretty intense… There would be no reason to bring her back to then have Jack fall for a younger kim look alike. Why on earth? I love Kate. She is an amazing character. I am all about her relationship/future with Jack, but it’s not a romantic one.
24bauerfan
July 1, 2014 at 7:01 pm24 is in its ninth season and at the end of this latest episode, I was visibly (and audibly) shocked at what had just transpired. That alone is commendable for this drama series, known for its twists and turns. I love how all the walls and layers of storyline the writers have built up throughout the season and the series are coming down. The Russians are after Jack. The Chinese are involved. Chloe is being held by them. We find out that Kate’s husband is actually dead. And, let me not bury the lead here, a Chinese carrier was just blown up by a US submarine! Having watched very single episode of this show, been through it in its good times and bad times, this episode filled me with joy, because now all the storytelling cards are stacked in such a way that I could really envision a truly amazing series finale. I was definitely a fan of season 8’s supposed series finale, but there’s no question that it left things… indefinite? With Jack going head to head with both the Chinese and the Russians, I can see a clear way for the writers to end this show forever, on a spectacularly satisfying note, whether Jack Bauer lives or dies in the end.
Mj
July 2, 2014 at 7:15 pmMj
July 1, 2014 at 7:56 pmKiki Vanderway
July 1, 2014 at 8:30 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 9:35 pmChlojack
July 1, 2014 at 9:37 pmPDFizzle
July 2, 2014 at 2:29 amJack
July 2, 2014 at 9:44 amAlongside Ron, I like the CIA Scottish tech guy Gavin Leonard.
Chlojack
July 2, 2014 at 2:33 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 9:55 pmGerry Mander
July 1, 2014 at 10:05 pm“Crazy?”
“Don’t mind if I DO!!!”
*cue carnage, prolonged gunfights, and eighteen-hour car chases*
Kyra Zinsmeister
July 1, 2014 at 9:42 pmChloe
July 1, 2014 at 10:13 pmCheng’s entrance was so awesome, and I can’t wait to see how the other characters (Jack, Audrey, Chloe, Heller) all react to his reappearance. I’m guessing he’s working for the Russians?
I’m worried for Chloe. On a side note, are we going to have to see Chloe with the Dragon Tattoo (with smudge-free make-up, no less) for the remainder of the season? Oy. I thought the new look was cool at first, but I’m not sure of its purpose at this point.
Mary
July 1, 2014 at 10:20 pmChloe
July 1, 2014 at 10:39 pmMary
July 1, 2014 at 10:53 pmBruce
July 1, 2014 at 10:14 pmMilo Pressman, CTU *bang*
July 1, 2014 at 10:49 pmHonestly, I wouldn’t mind continuing 24 without Jack. Kate Morgan would be a great new central character to the show – she has a similar background to that of Jack in Season 1. Start a new cast (that survives multiple seasons) centered around Kate, Erik, and even Navarro for all I care. It’d be a successful re-boot. How many times can Bauer stop a terror plot?
New West Virginian
July 1, 2014 at 11:20 pmChlojack
July 2, 2014 at 12:44 pmBig Gucci Sosa
July 2, 2014 at 1:33 amHina
July 2, 2014 at 3:26 amfan
July 2, 2014 at 8:43 amSeba
July 2, 2014 at 10:41 amMary
July 2, 2014 at 9:53 pmSeba
July 2, 2014 at 8:57 am“My people will not abandon me like you abandoned Jack Bauer.”
There is a plot of the chinese government. We never saw any chinese people killed by the missile… It could be empty.
Mary
July 2, 2014 at 9:51 pmpredictor32
July 2, 2014 at 9:53 amWhen I think of Cheng, I dont think of him from season 6 as i’ve basically erased that season from my memory. I initially dont even think of him from the season 5 finale. I think of him from the classic Chinese embassy episode of season 4 and the subsequent episode where he kidnaps the CTU field agent who was part of the Chinese embassy operation. The actor/character was amazing in those episodes and I’m pleasantly surprised that the show brought him back for these final hours.
runtime
July 2, 2014 at 9:58 ambut yes. I agree.
predictor32
July 2, 2014 at 10:48 amAlex of Hong Kong
July 2, 2014 at 1:39 pmNew West Virginian
July 2, 2014 at 1:43 pmMary
July 3, 2014 at 12:31 amKeith
July 2, 2014 at 3:21 pmThe time jump will be flying from London to L.A. with Jack (finally) getting the happy ending with Kim (her fam) and with Audrey.
Mary
July 2, 2014 at 9:45 pmNew West Virginian
July 3, 2014 at 5:52 pmSteveS
July 2, 2014 at 4:11 pmAlso seems funny that the super-connected Adrian (who has Chloe’s computer mirrored all day & knows instantly what Jordan’s up to) wouldnt be automatically alerted to Cheng’s takeover of his headquarters. At the very least he should be aware that all his Open Cellmates suddenly stopped working on their computers.
Lastly, how did Cheng suddenly discover Adrian’s true intentions, & why didn’t he intervene earlier when Yates had the device.
David
July 2, 2014 at 6:03 pmKate, well, damn she’s good! That’s the way to get the information from somebody! She WAS ready to kill Navarro – and he knew it.
So what has Cheng got planned for poor Chloe? Must be something or he’d have killed her at the same time as Cross. Now Jack’s pinned down in a fire-fight, how’s he going to get to Chloe?
It’s at times like this that the compression of the show into 12 episodes really shows, with so much happening in a short time. As others have said, it’s not quite the same, with the gradual building of the tension lacking.
I found it a bit odd the that sub commander just fired off torpedoes without a word of questioning the order, or at least trying to verify it. Anyone seen the film “Crimson Tide”? Brilliant film where the Executive Officer fights the Sub commander over whether to launch a nuclear missile.
Nevertheless, this was hugely enjoyable! They are certainly building up to a tremendous finale!
Please don’t let them kill Chloe!
Mark d.
July 2, 2014 at 7:36 pmWynndel
July 2, 2014 at 8:50 pmJohnny
July 2, 2014 at 8:52 pmChlojack
July 2, 2014 at 9:12 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 9:40 pmChlojack
July 2, 2014 at 10:52 pmsprite
July 5, 2014 at 11:01 pmWynndel
July 2, 2014 at 8:55 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 9:39 pmJohnny
July 2, 2014 at 9:26 pmThe same could be said about james bond movies.. How many times can james bond save someone, or save himself? so far 24 times.. and they keep scoring good!
There’s enough Jack Left.
will
July 2, 2014 at 9:41 pmMary
July 2, 2014 at 9:41 pm24 Spoilers
July 3, 2014 at 10:36 am24 on the other hand has remained largely the same throughout the series run. Same lead actor, same director Jon Cassar, same production crew for Seasons 1-8, same writing crew. They haven’t really tinkered with the formula much.
Brad
July 3, 2014 at 11:11 amKiki Vanderway
July 3, 2014 at 12:27 pmKiki Vanderway
July 3, 2014 at 12:30 pmKiki Vanderway
July 3, 2014 at 12:32 pmNew West Virginian
July 3, 2014 at 1:51 ambuck
July 3, 2014 at 10:32 amJack saves the day, as usual, but at the cost of Chloe who died at the hands of Chang. US drones eventually catch up with the device and Chang and level a building he is in, killing him we are led to believe. As it seems all is at peace with the world and jack flies back on air force one to the states with Audrey and Heller. Once arriving jack gets word that Kim is waiting for him at the airport. Eventually they see each other in a crowded airport and begin to walk towards eachother. As this is happening, the camera quickly switches to a rifle scope that is watch the two walk towards eachother. Just as they are about to hug, a shot is fired and strikes Kim in the heart. As Kim falls to the ground, jack catches her and cradles her as she is bleeding out and unable to speak. camera quickly switches back to the sniper, who is revealed to be Chang (who was not killed in the drone attack), who naturally escapes quickly and out of sight. We switch back to jack and kim, and as kims eyes are slowly closing, the scene starts to fade black with a silent clock for Kim Bauer.
After that, a promo for season 10, in which jack goes ballistic and stops at nothing in good old fashioned revenge to foil a terrorist plot by Chang and evently fades out with Chang with his hands tied in a chair in a dark room, where it is reavealed that Jack has him captive and about to perform the most epic torture in the 24 series for him killing his daughter.
BOOM.
Brad
July 3, 2014 at 11:13 amXAM
July 3, 2014 at 3:17 pmI’m now about to tell you the exact opposite.
Please, for the love of God never write anything ever again!
“BOOM.” indeed – Jesus!
Alex
July 3, 2014 at 6:24 pmBrad
July 3, 2014 at 7:14 pmPat
July 4, 2014 at 8:30 amXAM
July 4, 2014 at 3:58 pmConsider this. Both the Russians and Cheng have had a legitimate beef and a reason for wanting to bring Bauer to justice. It would be VERY fucking convenient would it not for BOTH parties to become international terrorist masterminds down the line… working together no less.
Do me…
a fucking
favour!
Pat
July 5, 2014 at 11:59 amI’d rather have him working for Alan Wilson’s group, as they are the ones that busted him and Wilson out. Would leave the door open for Tony too, but i highly highly doubt that.
Or just have Mandy show up and kill them all, then turn the gun on herself, the end.
XAM
July 5, 2014 at 4:05 pmPat
July 5, 2014 at 9:09 pmDine
July 3, 2014 at 1:43 pmChlojack
July 3, 2014 at 3:22 pmDine
July 3, 2014 at 3:53 pmNew West Virginian
July 3, 2014 at 5:53 pmPat
July 4, 2014 at 8:31 amwhat? Don’t believe me?
Seba
July 5, 2014 at 11:19 amPat
July 5, 2014 at 12:00 pmXAM
July 5, 2014 at 4:03 pmShaun Clark
July 3, 2014 at 1:44 pmAdrian confess to Chloe about Morris and Prescott’s death was an accident, well I didn’t expect that!
I wonder how Jack will react when he finds out that Cheng is back? Poor Adrian got shot in the end, I don’t think its looking good for Chloe, I reckon she will be killed of this series.
Only 2 more episodes to go before its over, hope we get a season 10 for next year, also its just been reported about ratings for last night on Sky1, is this good for ratings?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a581948/24-live-another-day-continues-with-426000-viewers-on-sky1.html#~oIYtEWzXqSgzNE
C
July 4, 2014 at 12:03 pmhesam
July 4, 2014 at 4:33 pmM
July 5, 2014 at 1:29 amChlojack
July 5, 2014 at 10:18 amhttp://tvline.com/2014/07/05/rory-kinnear-penny-dreadful-performance-grand-guignol
tgn3000
July 5, 2014 at 1:40 pmXAM
July 5, 2014 at 6:20 pmLady J
July 6, 2014 at 4:06 amYes I know having said this I am now an open target for all sorts of ill will and those all but declaring war on me for sure, and there will be all manner of remarks posted to me about your right of free speech, me imposing my values on others, yadda, yadda, yadda. And oh yes I’d almost forgot of course being judgmental when scripture says I shouldn’t judge others. Careful with that one having been a theology major in college I’ve already been there and done that one in debates add on infinitude. Not interested in doing it again, just would like to see “24” posts on subject and cleaned up a tad.
For the past couple of episodes I have enjoyed staying quietly in the background playing a bit of a role of a lurker and it has been very thought provoking at times, and educational as well as fun. As an observer it has had the quality of a large dinner party which has a variety of topics being discussed; there has been a warmth of camaraderie as the ideas unfold and others add to them their own thoughts. There has also been that word R E S P E C T as well for the person and the ideas they are putting forth. And I note that from a personal exchange with Mary who helped me to see that I was very much off base regarding President Heller because of my anger with his treatment of Jack in S6. She was right and I was wrong to a degree, but she never made it personal or got into name calling with me. My long period of silence after our sharing was because I learned from Mary that there was a lot I had forgotten and I wanted to get better caught up to speed with those here who obviously could all but lip sync the various parts they were so familiar with and immersed in.
With that in mind I say how about a little respect for what has gone before and so let me repeat a little as I ask you to give due consideration to this. Up to some of the more recent postings we have had some very thoughtful views shared here by a large number of writers including Mary, Kiki, sprite, and many others. All of whom have obviously put in a lot of effort and time, as well as thoughtful thinking, not to mention heaven only knows how many hours of reviewing all of the seasons which have gone before this one. Granted it is something they have enjoyed doing, as well as it being in many ways a labor of love for them and for us too. I for one have enjoyed their in depth reviews of the earlier the earlier shows as they have brought back much that I had not thought about in a long time and sent me back to my DVD to see it again.
Their eyes have seen facets of the characters and plot lines that I had either missed or completely forgotten about in so many ways that reading their reviews, thoughts, and insights has been like unwrapping what had appeared to be a simple package on Christmas morning. Then only to find that the gift was as complex, uniquely special, and that like the giver it truly had a touch of elegance and class to it. Or in other cases that it was as perverse and quirky as could be just like the giver that it caused you to burst out laughing with them at the whole thing. Their insights have challenged others of us to either think outside of the standard “24” box, to be caught up in a continuous loop of moles and senseless violence. Or to consider many other possible outcomes that stretched our mind of plausibility to the max, and yes of course how ever could the writers possibly bring back Almeida too! Although I really wanted to see Aaron Pierce again.
So if I appear to be a crotchety old woman who is too easily offended by the casual use of this word, which as I see it, is a rather rude, crude, socially unacceptable word, that seems to have become so easily accepted by some groups, then know this. The word you hold so dear is very often being misused from its original intent, it in fact is an acronym of letters put on a placard over the head of one who had been placed in public stocks in the town square because they had been found to be guilty of and were being punished: For Uncommon Carnal Knowledge Just as we who are either military or were married military know what a SNAFU is and that it is also an acronym, and while it has become widely used we did slip other words into it for civility and the sake of the polite society we were considered to be part of; could we just not have it being posted with such ease here? Please? A little civility?
OK, have at it as I am sure I’ve stirred up a bit of a hornets nest and there is probably a lot of anger and frustration with me for this post. But do you want to kill the messenger because you don’t like the message? Does it have to become personal? Have I really asked that much of those who are posting here? All I asked for is some civility and to just think before you post?
If you are among those who have quietly sighed a huge sigh of relief because of what I’ve posted here; then please say so. Don’t sit in silence and leave me alone out on a limb that supports your thoughts as well and then by your in action of saying nothing I am cut off at the tree trunk to go crashing down into the midst of an angry mob below, speaking metaphorically of course.
Thanks for allowing me to vent a bit of frustration over a very number few posts considering how big the number overall posts are that are here. It has been a joy reading what everyone is sharing, as there are some very good writers and postings here.
Blessings One and All, Lady J
XAM
July 6, 2014 at 9:48 amLady J
July 6, 2014 at 7:43 pmThanks much for your critical comment on my post. And I mean that sincerely. It actually had a soft touch and was on the gentle side; I burst out laughing when I read it. Your dry humor was also perfect, down to even using the word “Respect”! That was just too funny! And please know I wasn’t laughing at you I was/and still am laughing at the whole thing as I can only imagine what must have been going through your head when you read it. I love it!! I was expecting or at least tried to prepare for some much harsher comments that would have some pretty sharp edges to them. Too late now people, don’t bother. I was frustrated and vented, your humor is appreciated. I am still chuckling to myself over life’s sardonic humor that has this thing”of group think” thing called “the generation gap”.
I thought of it earlier this afternoon while at our pool chatting with a friend who is my age, and is of a similar mind set. Her granddaughter is visiting with a couple of teenage friends for the weekend. My friend and I were talking about this topic I so clumsily covered here and she understood my views completely; her granddaughter and friends completely disagreed with us.
OK XAM, so much for “a minute of silence from all of the members out of respect for the dead – both on 24 and in real life.” Very funny! We’re now at little over 1 day before we have only the wrap left for the show.
Big Gucci Sosa
July 6, 2014 at 9:57 pmOMFG 24 FTW
July 6, 2014 at 5:06 pmAudrey Heller? Did the show ever mention her changing her name back to Heller after season four?
24 Spoilers
July 6, 2014 at 5:33 pmThe “Previously on 24” segment for the second and third episodes has her name as Audrey Bodreau as do the official press releases. The official cast photos list her name as “Audrey Heller” but the official episodic promotional photos have always referred to her character as simply “Audrey.”
So it’s been sort of inconsistent even among the official media.
Kiki Vanderway
July 6, 2014 at 6:30 pmC
July 7, 2014 at 10:10 am(Which is even more ironic because both characters have been married to wimpy husbands played by Tate Donovan.)
Kiki Vanderway
July 7, 2014 at 10:41 amC
July 7, 2014 at 10:58 amJust when you start to feel sympathetic, he does something awful or shady, with debatably good intentions. I’m pretty sure he also played a character on Damages that was similar.
dat typecasting doe
Chlojack
July 7, 2014 at 12:09 pmMary McIlwain
September 19, 2014 at 10:46 pmJohn
March 3, 2015 at 8:17 am