Fox is developing a 24 spinoff that would revolve around a new twentysomething male terrorist hunter, but the intention would be for Kiefer Sutherland‘s Jack to weave in and out as a guest star, franchise overlord Howard Gordon confirmed to TVLine Sunday at the Critics Choice Television Awards.
The project would find the new male antihero working alongside an older, more seasoned female agent (not Yvonne Strahovski’s Kate Morgan, although she also may appear). It would also launch as a limited series, similar to last year’s acclaimed 24: Live Another Day, but I’m told the offshoot could easily become a long-term property for Fox.
24: LAD vets Manny Coto and Evan Katz will serve as writers and EPs.
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Comments ClosedBrad
June 1, 2015 at 4:47 pmChlojack
June 1, 2015 at 5:35 pmLuke
July 5, 2015 at 6:39 pmTom
June 1, 2015 at 5:58 pmThis is surely a result of Fox refusing to pay Kiefer what he deserves.
Chlojack
June 1, 2015 at 6:16 pmLuke
June 14, 2015 at 6:40 pmJustin
June 1, 2015 at 6:16 pmJohn
June 1, 2015 at 7:08 pmChlojack
June 1, 2015 at 8:09 pmBut at the very least, they should bring back SOME of the supporting characters from the original show. It’s just a shame that they killed so many of the great characters off. It would be awesome to see Palmer, Mason, Michelle, Sherry, Curtis, Bill, and Nina again.
Pat
June 1, 2015 at 8:21 pmChlojack
June 1, 2015 at 9:40 pmPat
June 2, 2015 at 8:48 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 8:14 pmPat
June 5, 2015 at 8:15 pmJohn
June 2, 2015 at 5:15 amTony, Aaron Pierce, Mandy, Chloe and Belcheck
If that was Mason in Solitary and he is still alive then definitly him. (remember he did not get a silent clock)
Maybe Kim as long as she does not get kidnapped, which is very unlikely.
Pat
June 2, 2015 at 8:48 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 12:08 amPat
June 3, 2015 at 6:19 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 7:25 pmJohn
June 1, 2015 at 7:01 pmPat
June 1, 2015 at 8:23 pmJohn
June 2, 2015 at 5:19 amPat
June 2, 2015 at 8:47 amJohn
June 2, 2015 at 10:02 amPat
June 2, 2015 at 11:00 amCJ
June 1, 2015 at 8:25 pmThe only way I’ll accept a spin-off was if it was Tony. I wanted Tony busted Jack out of prison. Not this. Sad.
John
June 2, 2015 at 5:19 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:32 pmThink of the fact that now, for the first time since we’ve see him bust out the towel trick side to him on Day 1, he’s actually *mysterious*. What’s up with Jack? Where is he? What’s he like now? We don’t know and we don’t know until he pops back into the story. He’ll get a grand entrance for the first time. Just as Tony Almeida how fun those are ;) Jack no longer has to be the epicenter of the series– that thankless role can go to some poor new kid who gets to run around yelling about how there are rules and morality, dammit! while Jack can wander in after a few episodes with us having finally gotten to miss him.
This isn’t the worst thing that’s ever happened to the show– this is the best thing that’s ever happened to the show.
24jack
June 1, 2015 at 9:18 pmTran
June 1, 2015 at 9:34 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:33 pmJohn
June 3, 2015 at 5:40 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 8:00 pmXAM
June 1, 2015 at 10:01 pmhttps://youtu.be/sfacFzF_VQQ?t=3m2s
This is the only actor who can do the job in my mind.
Everything I’ve seen him in convinces me he was born to do 24.
Mary
June 2, 2015 at 9:34 pmJonny
June 3, 2015 at 8:13 pmAs great as he could be in the 24 world, I doubt FOX would but a British actor in the lead role of a very american TV franchise.
Mary
June 3, 2015 at 8:21 pmAs for a British actor, well… David Fury on Twitter answered a fan suggestion that Dan Stevens should front the new series by saying that he’d made the same suggestion last year. For all of you who only think of him with regards to Downton Abbey, see The Guest. This should give you an idea: http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/4884410/The_Guest_review_-_SUNDANCE_2014_featured_photo_gallery.jpg
Shinobi
June 1, 2015 at 10:32 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:38 pm24 has always been an ensemble show. Always. Jack may be the main character but he is absolutely nothing without the supporting cast on this show and the same will be true of the new guy only now? The character of Jack gets to be a major supporting character. Which means he gets the really, really good, Tony Almeida-level stuff of plot. Best news ever.
John
June 3, 2015 at 5:45 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 7:28 pmMore24
June 1, 2015 at 11:36 pm24marathonman
June 1, 2015 at 11:55 pmWe need justice to be delivered to Charles Logan and to the anonymous “Goto Meeting” cartel from season 7.
Maybe the 20something terrorist hunter will be a grown up Derek Huxley character from season 5?
Pat
June 2, 2015 at 8:50 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:38 pmX
June 3, 2015 at 6:09 amNatalie24
January 7, 2016 at 9:35 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:41 pm24marathonman
June 3, 2015 at 7:54 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 8:01 pmI’m hoping the new lead character is Ryan Chappelle, Jr.. :)
24marathonman
June 4, 2015 at 12:03 amIf 24 is still going on in 10 years I would be ecstatic and by then would not care if Keith was the Prez.
Mary
June 4, 2015 at 7:09 pmAssuming that Day 10 takes place not long after Solitary, that puts the story sometime around the next U.S. Presidential election in the 24 world. I’d go for President Ethan Kanin versus Senator Keith Palmer with a later in the day twist that Keith is being willingly manipulated by Logan. There’s some kind of crisis that brings both parties together and Ethan, knowing he is about to lose the election to Keith anyway, brings in Allison Taylor to talk some damn sense into him and set him on a better path. Keith inherits the Presidency on the twentieth anniversary of his father becoming the first black President but it’s a bittersweet kind of victory. He lost his way a bit and now has to strive to become a man his father would have been proud of.
Pat
June 5, 2015 at 8:17 pm24marathonman
June 2, 2015 at 12:01 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:42 pmI don’t think Jack is imprisoned in Russia, though… I think it’s ohsomuchworse…
Davidete
June 2, 2015 at 2:41 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:55 pm“You can look the other way once, and it’s no big deal, except it makes it easier for you to compromise the next time, and pretty soon that’s all you’re doing; compromising, because that’s the way you think things are done. You know those guys I busted? You think they were the bad guys? Because they weren’t, they weren’t bad guys, they were just like you and me. Except they compromised… once.”
Jack’s character arc has always been to become a compromised man when it comes to the greater good. His family has always been the only way this would be possible. The beginning of Jack’s story with Teri & Kim on Day 1 signals what will eventually come back around for Jack by the time Kim is the mom and the Teri is now her daughter. Even how it would come back around was foretold in this episode, as to whom does Jack give this hypocritical message about compromise to? His mistress (so, he’s already personally a bit compromised), Nina…. who is really Yelena. A Russian mole.
X
June 3, 2015 at 6:23 amvera V
June 2, 2015 at 3:13 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 9:56 pmjohnny
June 2, 2015 at 5:48 amUnless Tony leads the show, and some old characters return (not just cloe).. then i won’t freakin’ watch this.. I wished i continued to sleep, this news ruined my day.. DAMNIT!
Chlojack
June 2, 2015 at 9:01 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 10:07 pm24’s ensemble is its real power. Look at the number of characters put in as provisos by everyone in this thread. Every other post is like ‘dammit, I really want Jack as the main character even though they said he’d be back anyways and that’s it, I’m out unless Tony/Kate/Chloe/Belcheck/Zombie!Chase/Cubby/AnyonebutFreddiePrinzeJr is in the lead!
Jack is a mainstay of 24, no doubt, but there was a time that no one thought this show could survive killing off David Palmer. There was a mass exodus threatened prior to Day 4 when it seemed like a then-still-only-quasi-liked Chloe was thought to be the only non-Jack returning character… and you know what happened? We all just spent almost seven interminable episodes waiting for the picture of Jack, Audrey, & Tony that Cassar teased us with to happen. After Day 3, they told us they were “rebooting” CTU and that we’d get characters back but maybe not right away and they’d be guest stars and all that. And look what happened… every damn character came back. There was a question as to whether or not Tony would return and Tony turned out to be the most narratively important character in the whole damn day.
They aren’t writing Jack Bauer out of the show. They’re just writing in a new character, like they do every damn season, whom we’ll all fall in love with after we spent the whole time beforehand bitching about their impending existence. When the time comes down the road when Kiefer would rather saw off his own arm then have to yell “dammit!” one more time and Jack’s story is reaching the inevitable end, the show might then still be able to go on because, by then, we’ll be invested in the new kid, whose story will tie into Jack’s story anyway. Jack’s influence over 24 is eternal. Right now, the best thing that could happen to Jack’s story is to confront him with a younger version of himself who has no idea how much his life is going to go to hell from that day forward.
Phee
June 3, 2015 at 6:42 amThe way it was reported though, that’s how most people interpreted it. Having had some time to ruminate on it, I’m now in a pretty chill wait and see mindset about it all, and am looking forward to what we hear about it next, and await the inevitable day when they announce that Jack will indeed be in Day 10, (along with Tony…and Chloe). But when I first read the article it was totally my kneejerk reaction to think, “WTF HELL NO YOU DON’T REPLACE JACK FUCKING BAUER.”
After all the “will he, won’t he,” speculation about Kiefer coming back or not, the fandom is on edge and wants to hear a reassuring, “I give you my word,” whereas this news was more of a, “meh prolly, but in the meantime, shiny new guy,” and so everyone’s gut reaction is, “WRONG ANSWER.”
X
June 3, 2015 at 8:40 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 7:44 pmX
June 4, 2015 at 9:24 amKate is the Jack that was betrayed by his trusted colleague (Nina Myers / Steve Navarro) and lost his wife (Teri Bauer / Adam Morgan) from that betrayal.
The result of that ghost is Kate (Jack) failing to save Audrey (Teri / Renee) from a second shooter (second mole). Her desperation to save Audrey mirrored his desperation when finding Teri’s body.
Audrey is shot in the stomach (just as Teri and Renee were). The obliteration of the future, where life is created.
“Oh my god, Audrey. … Oh my god. Stay with me. Stay with me. Audrey. Audrey, help is on the way. Don’t leave me now, OK. Stay with me. Stay with me, Audrey, come on. Stay with me. Oh god. Stay with me. Stay with me. Stay with me. Audrey, stay with me. Please, Audrey. Please, Audrey. Stay with me. Stay with me. Oh god.”
The phonecall from Kate brings him back to reliving this moment:
“Jack, it’s Kate. Jack, I’m so sorry. We lost Audrey. I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry. There was another shooter and he got her Jack. I’m… I’m so sorry.“
Compare that with his dialogue when finding Teri’s body:
“No. No. Oh my god, Teri. … I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry.“
And the dialogue when Renee is dying:
“Hold on, just stay with me.“
Mary
June 4, 2015 at 7:37 pmJack & Tony are mirror images of one another. Everything that happens to Jack happens in some form to Tony and vice-versa. They are either exactly the same or exactly the direct opposite of one another in every way because, while they’re individual characters, they’re really two halves of a whole. So, to say a character is “like Jack” is to say that are also “like Tony” in various ways and to say a character is “like Tony” is to say they are “like Jack”. Every damn character on 24 is rooted off of these two characters, in some way, shape, or form. Some of them skew a little more towards one than the other but they’re all, essentially, some part of Jack & Tony. Kate does have a lot of moments that are Jack-ish. I agree. Everything you pointed out, totally. But she has an equal number of Tony-ish moments and some moments that overlap into resembling both of them.
-Just when Kate thinks she has secured the woman Jack loves after saving her life, that woman is shot dead via gunshot wound to the stomach by someone with a connection to the Russians (Cheng’s hitman). That makes her Day 1 Tony, who saved Teri’s life and got her safely to CTU only to have Teri murdered by gunshot wound to the stomach by a mole of Russian origin in Yelena.
-Kate puts her body between Jack and members of the government with orders to kill him given to them by the President. This makes her Day 4 Tony (4.24) and her “this is my prisoner!” is delivered with a “it’s on you!”-like gusto. That moment is basically the end of 4.24, prior to Tony reviving Jack.
-Kate saves herself from imprisonment at the hands of Rask’s men while pretending to be a version of herself whom she is really not. Yes, she’s a CIA agent but no, she wasn’t the handler for Rask’s mole. When she survives, she’s lying on the floor and smiles with triumphant victory. She then gets up and scurries back against the wall to hide herself from those who could be coming. Now, go watch Solitary!Tony, who is playing a version of himself in order to win at his mission, is electroshocked (just like Kate), then on the floor (tossed back in his cell), scurries up against the wall (to avoid being seen by the guards) and then the smile that is our last bit of canon to date. (Also worth noting? Jack’s smile as he gets on the helicopter. He’s headed towards captivity while Kate & Tony are escaping from it.)
-Kate & Ritter’s relationship in the early hours resembles elements of early Day 1 Jack & Tony. Ritter’s got the soul patch but Kate’s the one who just wants to be let in on what’s going on and feels slighted by a guy whose work she admires.
-Kate teams up with Jordan, who is essentially Milo. Tony & Milo on Day 1. (This relationship eventually evolved into a version of Milo & Nadia from Day 6. Nadia was essentially Tony with Ovaries.)
-Kate figured out that Jack would go for the roof if he were really trying to escape and no one listened to her. This is akin to Tony on Day 4 explaining to everyone that Jack would start a firefight to be found after the EMP and everyone looking at him like he was insane.
-Black & maroon outfits on Kate for most of the day = Tony’s black suit & maroon shirt for most of Day 1. John Grisham book she puts in a box in 9.01 is ‘Calico Joe’, which is about the Chicago Cubs.
You can do this for days and Kate also comes out to be Michelle, Kate Warner, Kim… depending on what the plot is reflecting at the time. She’s Jack & Tony because every character on this show is reflective of Jack & Tony, in some way, shape, or form, but I guess what I was saying above is that I think she skews a little closer to who Tony is as a character than she did Jack.
X
June 5, 2015 at 11:06 amYou write, right? You should. Like I should. Our characters were created for this. Check out my full analysis of the ending of Live Another Day. I think you’ll appreciate it if you haven’t already noticed these things. This is the cached version of it as the website is temporarily down: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZK_ouekPWCkJ:http://pulpepic.com/posts/tv/reviews-tv/24-live-another-day-2/id%3D111%2Bjohn+connor+live+another+day+analysis&client=safari&rls=en&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&&ct=clnk
johnny
June 2, 2015 at 5:55 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 10:12 pmX
June 3, 2015 at 8:41 amChlojack
June 2, 2015 at 9:17 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 10:29 pmI think an actor would take on this role because it’s right now more backdoor spinoff-y than it is actually “taking over” the role yet. They’ll have Jack come in and continue on his story but they’ll have this guy, too, so no one sees it as like this guy taking over for Jack. If it all works out, then by the time we reach the end of Jack’s story in a few years, we’ll know this guy well enough to want to keep on going with him. I think it’d be a tougher sell for an actor if they had already killed off Jack Bauer and were starting from scratch. For Day 10, at least, even if this guy is top billed while Kiefer is Special Guest Starring, in terms of the roles, it’s really like the Kate Morgan role on Day 9 (though I don’t think New Guy and Jack will be partnering up but you never know.) There’s almost always a character who is new to the story but provides an unique filter with which the audience can perceive the characters they already know. Michelle does this on Day 2– she brings with her story that highlights Jack & Tony’s relationship & their Nina issues. Chase, Bill, Nadia/Doyle, Renee, Arlo, and Kate Morgan all provide this at various points. Being the new main character of this story is really like just being the new captain of The Love Boat– it’s still the same damn story with most of the same damn characters and it’s still set on the same damn boat and, at the end of the day, that’s really what people are there to watch.
John
June 2, 2015 at 10:08 amPhee
June 2, 2015 at 11:54 amJohn
June 2, 2015 at 12:19 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 10:36 pmI can’t wait for the first trailer when everyone flips out with how awesome it looks and starts trying to figure out when and how Jack is coming into the story. It’ll be the Day 4 orgasm denial suspense all over again only (silver lining!) shorter seasons mean we don’t have to first spend until the penultimate scene of the 7th episode watching Jack while off his Prozac grumble his way through saving Chloe’s hacker friend until Tony shows up to actually start the story. That’s only the limited event series equivalent of maybe four episodes, tops? Jack back by 10.04? I could see it…
John
June 3, 2015 at 10:43 amCatherine
June 2, 2015 at 10:35 amjohnny
June 2, 2015 at 10:41 amJack = 24, Kiefer = Jack… for the last what 14 years?..
John
June 2, 2015 at 11:09 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 10:45 pmNo one but Kiefer Sutherland should play Jack Bauer. Ever. Sorry, Catherine, but no one could do it justice.
Catherine
June 2, 2015 at 10:39 am24marathonman
June 2, 2015 at 12:14 pmshafagh
June 2, 2015 at 10:43 amJustin
June 2, 2015 at 10:47 amhttp://tvline.com/2014/09/01/24-movie-kiefer-sutherland-release-date-feature-film/
Justin
June 2, 2015 at 11:00 amJohn
June 2, 2015 at 11:12 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 10:59 pm“Guest Starring” doesn’t mean “bad/little to non-existent story”. It means: “look at all the epic stuff we can do with Jack Bauer now that 24 isn’t starring Kiefer Sutherland.”
John
June 3, 2015 at 5:53 amPat
June 3, 2015 at 6:24 pmJohn
June 3, 2015 at 6:37 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 7:52 pmPat
June 5, 2015 at 8:22 pmBe great to see him back though
RonnieTheC
June 2, 2015 at 11:28 amMary
June 2, 2015 at 11:03 pmC’mon, man, you know you’re gonna watch just for that ;)
Enrique
June 2, 2015 at 11:34 amNo Kiefer = No 24.
Maybe we need to sign an online petition to bring back Kiefer Sutherland to the series, not as a guest star, but as the main protagonist.
If this new series has six episodes and Jack is at least in four of them, maybe I could be interested, but if he’s not, I’m not going to waste my time on this. “24” is great thanks to Jack Bauer…
Phee
June 2, 2015 at 12:09 pmChlojack
June 2, 2015 at 12:43 pmPhee
June 2, 2015 at 1:45 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 11:07 pmWe’re all going to be laughing at this thread when this thing comes out and Kiefer is in at least half the episodes while Carlos & Mary Lynn are regulars. I think they might go all out, full-stop and bring back CTU: Los Angeles just to get us to watch this poor new character who is so going to wish he took a sick day.
John
June 3, 2015 at 5:57 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 7:54 pmjohnny
June 4, 2015 at 4:06 pmMary
June 4, 2015 at 7:48 pmNorthern Star
June 2, 2015 at 11:46 amWhere have I heard this story before?
John
June 2, 2015 at 12:34 pmNorthern Star
June 2, 2015 at 1:18 pmSo long 24, it was nice while it lasted…
John
June 2, 2015 at 1:54 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 11:16 pmAlso, this isn’t NCIS. This isn’t even really Chicago Fire. This is an unique beast when it comes to spinoffs because 24 is a cyclical story. It’s narrative structure is basically a hall of mirrors– it’s the same story told over and over again. Its ending will always also be its beginning and so on and so on. It’s structured like a series of mirrors and Jack is only one part (a major part but only one part) of that structure. 24 easily goes on without him and has been laying the foundations for that for a long time now, even if there are still quite a few story beats to be had before his character isn’t expressly needed anymore…
24marathonman
June 3, 2015 at 8:14 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 9:08 pmNot sure how realistic it is but my hope is that they eventually do a full 24 hour day again between the two series. The spinoff leads off the first 12 hours, then the old school show becomes the focus of the 2nd 12 hours and it’s one story over one day between the two. I really liked Live Another Day but the show’s just better when it’s 24 episodes long. More room for side plots that flesh out the characters and time enough for the guys to grow out a beard. It’s just not 24 if you haven’t been up with the characters for 24 hours.
Danny
June 2, 2015 at 1:33 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 11:26 pmI think people are forgetting that every season of 24 brings us at least a couple of new characters to whom we grow attached so the idea of not wanting to let go of Jack just says they’ve done a great job creating characters we love. And we don’t even *have* to let go of Jack, since he’s coming back and probably more lovably insane than ever. :) I’m with you– totally willing to give them a shot with this spinoff.
I say this now. Don’t even talk to me if someone doesn’t reunite Tony with his goddamned coffee mug. Jack better be carrying that thing around in his Jackpack and lighting candles beside it at night, yearning for the day he and Tony and their respective signature accessories can finally find time to take that honeymoon.
shafagh
June 2, 2015 at 2:27 pmAndrew
June 2, 2015 at 2:35 pm24marathonman
June 2, 2015 at 6:16 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 11:28 pm“The hell did you do to your hair?”
“This is my version of your douche-y mustache of depression.”
“Do you have a *skull* tattooed on your neck? Christ, Chloe, are you fifteen?”
“Cut me some slack, Mr. Art School Dropout Corduroy Jacket!”
johnny
June 4, 2015 at 8:50 amJohn
June 4, 2015 at 10:46 amMary
June 4, 2015 at 7:49 pmMarlon
June 2, 2015 at 4:42 pmLooking forward to it.
Haters gonna hate already and pre-judge – go ahead. Be negative.
Brendan
June 2, 2015 at 8:46 pm24jack
June 2, 2015 at 11:25 pmMary
June 2, 2015 at 11:34 pmJohn
June 3, 2015 at 6:04 amMary
June 3, 2015 at 9:00 pmYeah, definitely main cast. Though I’ll take any Tony, anytime. I get that he had to disappear to facilitate Jack’s descent into darkness but that descent just took suuuuuuch a lonnnnnnng time that I feel like we’re kind of just now getting to the parts of Jack’s story that I wanted to watch ages ago.
John
June 4, 2015 at 3:34 amMary
June 4, 2015 at 7:51 pmChlojack
June 3, 2015 at 10:08 amIf they go with a big threat right from the get go, will they be able to really develop the lead characters, the way they did with Jack? The smaller, personal threat from season 1 was so great.
John
June 3, 2015 at 10:39 amX
June 3, 2015 at 5:44 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 8:45 pmjohnny
June 4, 2015 at 8:48 amMary
June 4, 2015 at 7:56 pmjohnny
June 6, 2015 at 12:10 pm– Jack Bauers Escape from the Russians
– Charles Logan’s involvement in capturing jack for all the things jack has caused him (Charles wasn’t killed he suffered ”possible” brain damage)
– Tony Almeida’s Escape From Prison
– Taking down Charles Logan with the help of Aaron Pierce & Martha Logan and Cloe
– Kim Bauer being kidnapped with her children
– The Handler (Who’s voiced by Xander Berkeley aka George Mason in 24: Solitary) reveals he’s the ”Bad Guy” plotting a genocide attack in L.A
– Tony & Jack team up to get kim and her kids back, and to take down the handler, with help of Cloe and Belcheck
– Jack reunited with Kim, Tony gets immunity for his help and doesnt need to go back to prison
johnny
June 6, 2015 at 12:15 pmRonnieTheC
June 3, 2015 at 12:49 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 8:38 pmJohn
June 4, 2015 at 3:40 amMary
June 5, 2015 at 3:58 pmjohnny
June 3, 2015 at 5:51 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 7:59 pmJohn
June 4, 2015 at 3:42 amRonnieTheC
June 3, 2015 at 10:06 pmMary
June 3, 2015 at 10:57 pmPhee
June 4, 2015 at 4:54 amPS. If anyone’s in LA and wants to go: http://alss-24liveanotherday.splashthat.com/
John
June 4, 2015 at 10:53 amRonnieTheC
June 4, 2015 at 11:23 amMary
June 5, 2015 at 3:38 pmJohn
June 5, 2015 at 7:59 pmRonnieTheC
June 4, 2015 at 12:08 amGerry Mander
June 4, 2015 at 8:06 amIf this new series is founded on a genuinely organic idea that just doesn’t need Jack at the centre of proceedings then it might be worthwhile, but if it is (as I strongly suspect it to be) simply to keep a lucrative franchise going despite it’s star’s obvious reticence about returning full-time then it’s not starting out on the right foot. I fear it’s much more the latter than the former and that’s why this whole thing makes me a little queasy, whoever the new lead is better be dynamite charismatic or the whole thing will go down like the Hindenburg, regardless of how well written and directed it turns out to be.
I always defended the fact that ’24’ was still going – and against those who said it should have ended sooner – but this news has started making me question that opinion now…
Phee
June 4, 2015 at 9:35 amAgreed. But I have to wonder how much of the spinoff plan is really set in stone yet? Can’t help thinking that Day 10 will end up having a decent balance of the old, (to give fans something familiar, and give characters some closure), and the new, (so that if it works, they can continue with it in the future), but no commitment will be made to a fully fledged spinoff until Day 10 is over with.
I just don’t see how they go back to the 24verse in any capacity without resolving what’s up with Jack, and also what they teased in Solitary. Those omissions would be so glaring that no one would be interested in the new aspects of the show at all, which would make it a monumental waste of time and money for them. Using Day 10 as a testing ground for the new character/s would seem a more savvy option, (and it really would be a testing ground now that they’ve told us what their future plan for said character/s could be). If they end up being popular with the audience, then great, invest in continuing their story. If they don’t end up being popular with the audience, then at least they’ve given it a go, and given us one last season with the old fan faves in the process.
Maybe I’m giving the showrunners too much benefit of the doubt with that thinking, it just seems like the more common sense option if they’re looking to make more money, rather than tossing a whole bunch of it down the drain with a big gamble of a complete refocusing of the show right out of the gate.
Mary
June 4, 2015 at 8:43 pmCatherine
June 6, 2015 at 2:08 pmAnyway good luck to find “a young leader” because fans can’t help comparing his character to Jack, and comparing the actor to Kiefer !
The only way I can see (first I though about a crossover with Homeland and the caracter of Peter Quinn, but he’s already like Jack) it’s a group of Tony, Chloe, Belcheck trying to save Jack who appears only in the last episode.
What I want is a proper closure for Jack not this shitty end of 24LAD
(sorry for my bad English)
RonnieTheC
June 4, 2015 at 11:39 amEasy to do, but it sucks! If FOX wants to create a new show about terrorism, fine and dandy. But the should go in a new direction. No real time episodes, no CTU, no Chloe, no Tony, and no use of the name “24”. The only thing that made 24 so unique, so loved, so endearing, so watchable for so many fans for so many years was Kiefer’s portrail of Jack Bauer. Everything else was just iceing on the cake.
johnny
June 4, 2015 at 12:10 pm24 without jack is like Married With Children without Al bundy, Seinfeld without Seinfeld, Home Improvement without Tim Allen and James bond without James bond
Mary
June 4, 2015 at 8:00 pmRonnieTheC
June 5, 2015 at 12:14 pmMary
June 5, 2015 at 3:14 pmCTU is a main “character” of 24– so main, in fact, that it got a corruption (absorbed by Homeland on Day 5), a death (Day 6, it is murdered with glass shattering everywhere & we haven’t seen it since), a funeral (the Rogue CTU), a parallel unit(Day 7’s FBI), a resurrection (CTU is brought back to find its undead former director on Day 7), a zombifciation (the NSA’s revival project of CTU: NY), and an origin story all of its own (Day 9’s CIA field office, significant as CTU was born out of the CIA & several key players, including Jack & Tony, are former CIA field agents). Even though we haven’t seen the home base of CTU: LA since 6.24, we’ve “seen” CTU’s story in every season of the show.
The same is true for the characters you mentioned. Chloe O’Brian doesn’t show up in the series until 3.01 but there was “a Chloe” fulfilling her role for two seasons prior. On Day 1, Chloe is a combination of Jamey Farrell & Lauren the Waitress. (Lauren in personality basically *is* Chloe.) By the time you get to Day 8 & you have Chloe with a gun on Jack & him taking her hostage, it’s all calling back to Jack’s episode with Lauren in the first season. Tony’s so important as a character that his absence has to occur in the story in order to create plot arcs for other characters. He’s pretty much the only character who does just as much by not being there as he does when he shows up. There is always a character paralleling Tony when he’s not around and usually more than one. (At different times, Nadia, Omar Hassan, Cole Ortiz, Kim’s husband, and Kate Morgan have all been Tony-ish stand-ins in the plot.) Try imagining Days 6 or 8 happening if Tony had been there. It doesn’t work. There’s always a Tony in the plot, as well. The show can’t even break away from real time as an element. Even stuff like the first few minutes of Day 9 and Solitary unfold in real time, even if it doesn’t technically have a clock.
My point is that Jack is just another super-important element of 24 that can be substituted out to tell the overall story, just like how you can throw a bunch of Tony stand-ins at the story to point out his absence & highlight the other characters’ stories, just how other characters foreshadowed Chloe long before she actually showed up. Even if they wrote Jack out of the show forevermore from this point forward and carried on, there would still be an element *of* Jack in the story. You can even make an argument that they couldn’t even do Solitary– the first piece of canon that doesn’t directly mention or feature Jack– without an element of Jack. He was there. He just sounded an awful lot like George Mason.
HESAM
June 4, 2015 at 12:04 pmRob
June 4, 2015 at 4:47 pmRonnieTheC
June 4, 2015 at 5:37 pmJohn
June 5, 2015 at 7:59 pmSteven
June 5, 2015 at 5:39 amLA.DC.NY.UK
June 5, 2015 at 9:04 amshafagh
June 5, 2015 at 1:41 pmshafagh
June 5, 2015 at 1:41 pmshafagh
June 5, 2015 at 1:43 pmChlojack
June 5, 2015 at 4:38 pmJohn
June 5, 2015 at 3:10 pmMary
June 5, 2015 at 3:37 pmChlojack
June 5, 2015 at 4:35 pmJack
June 6, 2015 at 7:04 amJack Bauer himself
June 5, 2015 at 5:50 pmBack Jauer
June 5, 2015 at 8:46 pmMarlon
June 5, 2015 at 9:25 pmIt’s all about the concept of 24. To be honest, I really love the 24hour thing. Although, times have changed and gone are the days where you have a 24 episode season for a series. So I’d expect a 12 hour format – 2 hours each day kinda thing.
Kiefer’s role in 24 is pretty much over. I would definitely like to see some kind of closure with his character during this spinoff though.
Looking forward to seeing what the finished product looks like. And Bring Back Tony!
shafagh
June 6, 2015 at 10:34 am24n2016
June 7, 2015 at 6:15 amXAM
June 7, 2015 at 1:24 pm24n2016
June 7, 2015 at 3:26 pmBrad
June 7, 2015 at 9:32 pmSpecial Agent
June 8, 2015 at 12:23 amtopcard
June 8, 2015 at 12:42 pmSeason 1: March, 2002.
Season 6: Specific reference to Terri’s funeral being 9 years earlier. So – 2011.
Season 7: Takes place 4 years later, in late April of the first year of President Taylor’s term. So – 2015.
Season 8: 18 months later, in October 2016.
Season 9: 4 years later, in the fall of 2020.
Jack was born in February 1966 – which made him 54 in LAD.
Another way to examine how many years have passed is via Presidential terms.
We know that David Palmer’s term ends shortly after the events of Season 3. (Keeler wins, and is President in Season 4).
Palmer – 4 years
Keeler/Logan/Gardner – 4 years
Wayne/Daniels – 4 years
Taylor/VP – 4 years
Heller – 4 years.
… add in 10 months for Season 1 (March to January).
Taylor’s term ends 26 months after Season 8.
So, we can assume Heller’s term is only 40 months old. Taylor/Heller combined equals 66 months, (5 years and 5 months). Add it all up? 219 months, or 18 years and 3 months.
Add that to March 2002, and that puts LAD (S9) in June of 2020.
Jack Bauer was 54 in June 2020.
Obviously, you can adjust, if you do not accept that Season 1 was in March 2002 – but trust me – it was (confirmed through multiple reveals throughout the series).
Tony & Jack are roughly the same age… but bear in mind that the event in ‘Solitary’ are taking place 7 years after the events in Season 7, or 20 years after Season 1.
That would make it April/May of 2022… two years after the events of LAD.
So, Tony is in his mid-to-late 50s.
That is all.
You may now continue your previous discussion.
parodi91
June 8, 2015 at 1:36 pmXAM
June 9, 2015 at 4:43 pmRonnieTheC
June 9, 2015 at 1:15 pmHe got wind of a planned breakout by a group of prisoners, and became a mole, pretending to be part of the escape plan, but was, in reality, working with the prison officials. Because of Tony, the breakout was thwarted. Season 10 begins with an explination that Jack was released by the Russians because the US President (whomever he may be) cut a deal with the Russian President not to make public the Suverov underhanded dealings regarding the day 8 peace treaty. Jack returns to L.A. , there is a major terrorist plot against the US, and Jack is asked to return to the recently re-opened L.A. branch of C.T.U., (with Brian Hastings as the director). Jack confesses that between day 7 & 8, when Tony was in prison, he reconnected with Tony and saw thatTony was in deep remorse. Of course Jack is willing to return to C.T.U. this one last time under one condition: Tony is given a temporary pardon so he can work with Jack and, once again, save the day. The day being day 10, the final day of 24. In the end, there will be closure. Jack can ride off into the sunset and be with his family in L.A., Tony will either get permanant pardon or be killed, and Chloe will retire from C.T.U. as she is offered a wonderful position as a Victoria secret model. It’s just a thought.
assman93
June 10, 2015 at 10:23 amJG
June 11, 2015 at 11:43 pmJohn
June 10, 2015 at 10:41 amGerry Mander
June 10, 2015 at 12:00 pmIf they do go ahead with a new lead, Stephen Dorff would be a good pick, why does it have to be a 20-something?
John
June 10, 2015 at 12:19 pmJohn
June 11, 2015 at 2:25 pm24marathonman
June 11, 2015 at 3:30 pm24marathonman
June 11, 2015 at 3:54 pmhttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-emmy-chat-join-kiefer-sutherland-of-24-die-another-day-20150610-story.html
RonnieTheC
June 12, 2015 at 11:47 amwill
July 28, 2015 at 6:34 pm