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April 11, 2017 at 4:48 pmBluetooth Group
April 11, 2017 at 5:18 pmFrank
April 11, 2017 at 5:19 pmXAM
April 11, 2017 at 5:32 pmJD
April 11, 2017 at 5:57 pmThey were stupid enough to think they could leave Jack’s fate in limbo and just jump to something new and that no one would mind.
They were stupid enough to think that this show would draw in this entirely new fanbase.
They were stupid enough to bring Tony back as an evil terrorist, so YES–I could see them being this stupid…OH, YEAH I could…and it hurts…:(
JD
April 11, 2017 at 5:58 pmChlojack
April 11, 2017 at 6:39 pmFord Martin
April 11, 2017 at 7:20 pmandy
April 11, 2017 at 7:26 pmTom
April 11, 2017 at 8:00 pmHuge disappointment , Tony is just a thug in 24Legacy!
Unbelievable that they have totally disgraced the second most popular character on 24 .
RyanChappelleShow
April 11, 2017 at 8:39 pmeman
April 11, 2017 at 9:45 pmTyler
April 11, 2017 at 10:22 pmMaybe a cliffhanger? Season 2 intended to be the next 12 hours?
Based on the pacing, it really feels like a 24-hour season. Feels like we’re in a middle arc still.
Joshua
April 12, 2017 at 2:24 amXAM
April 12, 2017 at 6:40 amJD
April 12, 2017 at 6:59 am-Unless I’m misunderstanding, the man Tony killed was technically bad, right? I mean–he was working for a corrupt man and being paid to keep a little girl held in a house
-Tony DID show some remorse/look of conscience when Sidra was apprehensive about sending the girl to that country
-It’s obvious what they’re doing: They’re pulling this “Tony cares even if he won’t admit it” crap. He’s trying to convince himself that he’s only in it for the money but, in the end, they’re going to have him “Realize” that he cares more than just about money and will help rescue Rebecca. It’s stupid, contrived and bad writing but it sounds like this is the route they’re taking with his character.
Like Bluetooth stated, Tony’s “redemption” will be foregoing his mercenary bit to help rescue Rebecca.
Yeah, it’s sh!tty but that’s what they’re going to do. It’s obvious.
JD
April 12, 2017 at 7:11 amSebastian Monroe
April 12, 2017 at 8:57 amXAM
April 12, 2017 at 9:48 amI’d love the 2 of them to have it out once again in the shows final finale.
WillAlwaysMissJack
April 12, 2017 at 2:36 pmFrank
April 12, 2017 at 10:11 amJD
April 12, 2017 at 11:16 amAs for giving the guy a pass, I agree with you on this point for two reasons:
-He was technically a thug/bad guy–no different from the type of person Jack has killed every season
-I didn’t notice his hands being tied either
It still bothered me how Tony nonchalantly shot the guy though. He technically didn’t have to. But at least I know now after watching that episode that he technically wasn’t an innocent.
Bluetooth Group
April 12, 2017 at 11:39 amBluetooth Group
April 12, 2017 at 11:41 amstraight up ruthless
JD
April 12, 2017 at 12:00 pmRegardless, it’s easy to ascertain that the creators wanted us to see that thug as a bad guy. That’s why he looked like a thug, dressed like a thug, spoke like a thug and died like one. This show makes the “bad guys” very obvious in appearance and he looked like anyone Jack has killed in earlier seasons.
Having said that, I’m firmly opposed to Tony doing any of this. This is not what I was expecting after Solitary.
Wang
April 12, 2017 at 11:58 amJD
April 12, 2017 at 12:05 pmI remember those season 8 days–people would give Jack a free pass and claim that his actions were “nothing like Tony’s”.
Uh, Jack killed innocent people, attacked a motorcade like a terrorist, gutted a man while grinning psychotically and was almost willing to let WWIII start all in the name of Renee. The difference is that Jack was able to be talked down while Tony wasn’t.
Tony’s actions were still worse but Jack was no saint either, yet people gave him a pass and made up countless excuses for how Jack’s actions were “so different” from Tony’s.
Bluetooth Group
April 12, 2017 at 12:32 pmMichael Ernette
April 17, 2017 at 12:53 amandy
April 12, 2017 at 1:17 pmJay
April 12, 2017 at 1:32 pmYes, no Tony. If Eric survives to reunite with Nicole, it is only logical to assume one of two things. The dad (or someone) stopped the assault at the 10 year old’s house and the tack team that was announced to be 20 min out eventually arrived re-apprehended Tony. Or Tony died in the assault, either shot or as someone had suggested in another thread, a suicide vest. (I don’t know if this represents any sort of redemption, but if there is redemption, I am guessing that it will come in that form)
Bluetooth Group
April 12, 2017 at 4:39 pmandy
April 12, 2017 at 3:27 pmKurt Cobain
April 13, 2017 at 7:48 amJay
April 12, 2017 at 5:33 pmIt says in this article here is 11:00PM to 12:00PM. That covers a 13 hour window.
Jack Power
April 12, 2017 at 7:00 pmAnd this says 11:00PM to 12:00AM.
This is from the press release so I think this the right one but I’m not sure.
Jay
April 12, 2017 at 11:00 pmHopefully they catch the mistake prior to airing the episode. I can see them messing up the title card. The editing room isn’t known for being the sharpest knives in the drawer. They managed to slip in raw footage from the Nairobi attack into the show.
24 Spoilers
April 12, 2017 at 11:48 pmTo clear up some of the confusion, there is indeed a 12 hour time jump, and it occurs in the last ten minutes just like LAD. It’s done in a cooler way though – there’s a wide shot with the Lincoln Memorial, Washington Monument and Capitol Building all in the same frame and it’s a time lapse of sunrise (it’s just stock footage, you can see it here) with the clock in the middle of the screen basically fastforwarding.
Jay
April 12, 2017 at 11:57 pmClock fast forwarding? Does it speed fast forward like at a gas pump? Or just say “12 Hours Later” like last time?
24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 12:11 amTo answer your question, yes
Joel
April 13, 2017 at 12:55 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 1:39 amI can answer most questions, but have to be vague on this one. I’ll say this though,
Joel
April 13, 2017 at 1:42 amJay
April 13, 2017 at 2:39 amMy guess is that they made an exception (if it is indeed Tony) due to the confusion about the character in the past.
Again, assuming that Tony bought the farm, my guess is that there will be more chatter (contrasted to the lack of discussion about Curtis Manning) among the surviving CTU agents (debrief?)
Admin, yes, you need to stop revealing stuff or the people who allowed you to watch 24 will likely cut you off from watching future shows. ;-)
Jay
April 13, 2017 at 2:51 amPerhaps the house of the 10-year old was boobie trapped and that took out some of the 3 other villains placing Tony in a more vulnerable position and evened the odds between Eric and Tony. The trailer did reveal that the Dad somehow had made some statements, to obviously the situation at the house isn’t resolved in the first 5 min.
Bluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:36 amBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:39 amSebastian Monroe
April 13, 2017 at 10:45 amThe other issue however, and 24Spoilers was not specific in this regard, is whether the silent clock and major death are two separate events. For example Jack got a silent clock at the end of Season 6, when there was no death. So the only wrinkle would be if the major character death is in fact Tony in Act One, he doesn’t receive a silent clock, and then there’s a silent clock perhaps at the end of the episode for whatever reason.
Nevertheless, despite how foolish the writers have been this season, I cannot believe that they would bring back Tony only to have him be killed off. Would be a tremendous disappointment.
Mr. H
April 13, 2017 at 1:45 amXAM
April 13, 2017 at 2:31 amBig Boss
April 13, 2017 at 2:35 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 3:35 amI don’t blame Carlos, though. Like Big Boss said, it certainly seems like a lot of his stuff got butchered after the fact.
Brian
April 13, 2017 at 3:45 amXAM
April 13, 2017 at 9:41 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 10:05 amWhat a complete and utter crock of SH!T.
JD
April 13, 2017 at 9:52 amThis was literally just a dupe to get us old fans to watch, those fcking snakes. No wonder Carlos looked unhappy in the interviews–they insulted him by butchering his role to sh!t.
All this emphasis on “catering to a ‘new generation’ of fans” led them to do EXACTLY what I knew they would do: spit in the face of us old fans. Now they’ve fcked Tony up even worse than he was in Season 7. Solitary set him up for redemption and they just ruined that.
I’m actually disgusted right now. I invested YEARS in this show and they put a bag over our heads, tease us with Tony while laughing and going: “Neener neener NEEEENER! We tricked you guys into watching our turd!”
I hope 24 DOESN’T come back in any way, shape or form, to be honest. At least not with this current batch of writers. These are the ORIGNAL people and they ruined their own product.
I wasn’t a fan of LAD but I actually have a new appreciation for it after this Legacy turd. At LEAST LAD gave us the fan service we deserved. It was poorly-written, yes, but it was executed so much better than what they did with Tony here. Powerful Jack/Heller scenes, for example. LAD was severely flawed but still felt like 24. Legacy, however? AWFUL. INSULTING, even.
XAM
April 13, 2017 at 2:06 pmJohnGormleyJG
April 13, 2017 at 3:30 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 3:47 amJohnGormleyJG
April 13, 2017 at 3:34 amASUSunDevil
April 13, 2017 at 3:45 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 3:59 amJohnGormleyJG
April 13, 2017 at 4:07 amASUSunDevil
April 13, 2017 at 4:08 amAsian Rebel
April 13, 2017 at 2:01 pmI think if there’s no renewal then they should have Eric decide not to work for CTU and choose Nicole instead.
Tom
April 13, 2017 at 4:05 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 4:25 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 4:20 amJohnGormleyJG
April 13, 2017 at 4:22 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 4:43 amJoel
April 13, 2017 at 9:10 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 11:44 amLike I said before Tony only has a couple mins of screen time (the first 8 mins to be more specific: his story is over by the first commercial break). Which you can probably guess isn’t much time for any sort of big character change or redemption angle. Your earlier speculation was on the right track.
Bluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:54 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 12:03 pmAs much as I hate to admit it, you win this one. You guessed it EXACTLY. Well done.
Of course, this “win” you had means we as Tony fans ALL lose, so……Want to get drunk? LOL! Drinks on me!
Bluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 12:07 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 12:11 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 12:10 pmDEFINITELY not redemption and if this was what Gordon and Carlos were referring to then they’re simply wrong; however, something tells me they had something bigger planned and dropped it for whatever reason.
While not redemption, I guess Tony standing down would at the bare minimum demonstrate that Tony might still have a bit of goodness buried deep down somewhere. Still doesn’t absolve him of his past sins, though. Wow…they really screwed Tony up and now Solitary means nothing. He LIED about wanting to earn Michelle’s love. That’s not Tony. Not even Season 7 Tony would dare take her name in vain like that.
Wang
April 13, 2017 at 12:41 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 12:50 pmEven Carlos Bernard gave us insight into Tony’s mindset this season and stated: “He may want to convince himself that he doesn’t care about anything other than money but I think he does care even if he doesn’t want to admit it.”. We saw NO indication of this on Legacy. Carlos literally had to give us all the development of Tony’s character through interviews because the lazy creators decided to leave it all out of the Legacy episodes.
XAM
April 13, 2017 at 2:09 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 2:44 pmWe already know from 24Spoilers that they DID shoot scenes that covered Tony’s backstory in episodes 7 and 8 of Legacy, the SAME episodes that Carlos stated those reveals would be made.
I doubt that Carlos would BS us.
Bluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 5:00 pmBrian
April 13, 2017 at 4:58 amandy
April 13, 2017 at 5:59 amWang
April 13, 2017 at 6:37 amJohnGormleyJG
April 13, 2017 at 6:57 amBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 12:12 pmXAM
April 13, 2017 at 2:10 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 2:40 pmSeason 2: He’s a broken man who man pull himself out of his hole and “find his way” again….which he does…after two episodes.
Season 3: He must overcome a heroin addiction and become the Jack we know and love again…does so with a magic pill that Saunders gives him by mid-season or less.
Season 4: Back to the “I don’t work for CTU anymore” mode and quickly ends up working for CTU again and acting no differently than before.
Season 5: He’s a man without an identity and hiding in the shadows….for half of the season premiere. LOL!
Season 6: Returns from a torturous tenure in a Chinese prison and is broken and wary of “the game”…for all of four episodes.
Season 7: He’s a penitent man who wants nothing to do with that world but also wants to face justice…until the guy who was trying him is killed and we never hear of the trial again.
Season 8: He wants nothing to do with “the game” and wants to be free…for two episodes
Season 9: He’s a wanted man on the run, living in the shadows (like Season 5) with the whole world against him…until Heller gives him a pardon mid-season.
So many wasted opportunities. To their credit, they DID run with the “Psycho Jack” angle a bit longer than expected in LAD when they had him literally throwing people out windows with zero remorse and chopping heads off. The problem with THAT is that he’s still in “working on a provisional basis with CTU” mode like all the other seasons.
XAM
April 15, 2017 at 5:04 amGerry Mander
April 16, 2017 at 3:20 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 6:57 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 10:44 amThe creators of the show apparently couldn’t stand the fact that Tony was becoming as popular as Jack and chose to destroy his character so as to keep him several pegs below Jack for whatever reason.
Zombie Tony has been stinking up the screens since Season 7 and I hope it is killed in the season finale.
Gerry Mander
April 16, 2017 at 3:22 pmFrank
April 13, 2017 at 7:28 amJack Power
April 13, 2017 at 8:17 amIt could be because the writing in Legacy is lazy and they don’t care about their old fans from the original 24.
Only if Jack get a main role he maybe can be treat well by this writers.
24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 11:06 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 10:01 am-The WORST use of a returning character I’ve ever seen (Tony)
-FURTHER bastardization of Tony by cutting out all his backstory, ignoring all the PO’d fans who hated him being turned into a villain and ignoring the perfect setup they had in SOLITARY for his redemption arc. Carlos gave us more insight into Tony’s character than the damn SHOW did this season. So, they cut all this out in order to cater to this nonexistent “new generation” of fans that don’t exist?
-Corny inclusion of a “relative” of a deceased 24 character who neither looks nor acts like said 24 alum they’re related to, making their inclusion 110% pointless
-AWFUL use of the actor who plays the Niseri character
-Eric Carter basically acting like “Jack Bauer-lite” defeating the purpose of even including a new character
-Boring characters
-Rushed storyline
-Poor acting
-Poor effects (some of these are worse than old season effects, for crying out loud)
-The entire season feels low-scale and low budget, which it probably is
What an awful slap to the face for 24 fans. They should have just ended it with LAD. Hell, I’d take that awful Jack sendoff in LAD as the last memory of 24 over this insult called “Legacy”. I’m actually shocked at how much they managed to muck this up. It doesn’t even feel like the same people were involved with this project.
Kurt Cobain
April 13, 2017 at 11:38 amAlthough this incarnation of 24 was interesting to watch from an artistic standpoint, there have been additional misrepresentations made by
I do have a question for the moderator: Was there any reference to Xander Berkley, what any of Solitary even remotely referenced?
JB53
April 13, 2017 at 11:55 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 12:00 pmThey basically ruined Tony’s character and the very meaning of his return all in the name of “not confusing those “””millions””” of new fans this series is now catering to”.
Considering these are the lowest ratings in the series’ history by FAR, I’d say that “new fanbase” they were looking for didn’t materialize.
Why? Because 99.9% of the time this “we’re foregoing the old fanbase to cater to a new one” rhetoric ALWAYS fails. Idiots. They made their bed and can lie in it. 24 has never looked as bad as it does now. Seasons 6, 8 and LAD look like MASTERPIECES in comparison to this turd.
Tyler
April 13, 2017 at 10:04 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 10:10 amChlojack
April 13, 2017 at 11:46 amIt’s astounding how everyone but Fox could see this was doomed right from the start.
JD
April 13, 2017 at 11:55 amBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 1:02 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 1:10 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 1:24 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 2:33 pmXAM
April 13, 2017 at 2:40 pmBig Boss
April 13, 2017 at 12:40 pmBut then again…
Even keeping it as an action show, there’s just so much that could be done with the basic format that doesn’t involve CTU-moles-terrorists-hostages. How about this Bin-Khalid mission they talked about so much? You could make a killer 24-hour season about a spec-ops mission gone wrong, trying to complete the operation, get out of the country, etc. Or something like (the massively underrated, imo) 24: Redemption – follow a bunch of civilians trying to hide out or escape during a coup. By dropping Jack, they were destined to alienate many original series fans regardless – they should have taken the opportunity to completely reinvent what the series could be.
(And while they were at it, don’t bring back Tony Almeida – period. All it did was turn the first half into a tedious waiting game, and it turned people off to the new characters even more than they already were. It’s pretty obvious it was a naked ploy to get more viewers rather than important for the story, anyway.)
Instead, they gave themselves the impossible task of trying to introduce and develop a completely new cast against the backdrop of maybe the most bland, generic, reheated story they’ve ever had on this show. How is it possible that every one of the last six episodes involved a different character getting taken hostage as leverage against a loved one? Something went terribly wrong in the writers’ room this year, and I really feel for the talented new cast who had to suffer through it. I maintain that the first episode was great on the whole, and there have been sparse highlights throughout – but I don’t think anyone could argue with a straight face that Legacy stacks up to even the weakest original seasons. This more than ever was the year they desperately needed to come up with something genre-shattering, but instead it was fuck-you-terrorists-are-happening like we’ve seen nine times before.
JD
April 13, 2017 at 12:46 pmI DO agree that this turd may have stunk less had they at least tried something entirely new and NOT wave Tony in our faces like some false promise that it turned out being.
Legacy is, quite frankly, THE laziest season they’ve ever done. Hands down. No contest. It managed to rehash even more than LAD did. THAT…is pathetic.
24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 3:57 pmThey made some really baffling decisions on the creative side.
I think a large part of the problem is they’ve become so used to doing these self-contained seasons, and this is the first time in ages where they were writing with future seasons in mind. I think that influenced a lot of their character and story choices and made them hesitant.
There appears to have been very significant rewrites at some point very late into the process. For example, the (partial) episode 9 script I have was quite different. Jadalla was on the loose, there was seemingly no Naseri character. There was no CTU attack – they were leveraging that “Grant” security guard character to get inside an Air Force Base hangar instead. Henry was a bad guy walking around with the jihadis, he pulled a silenced pistol out of his trenchcoat and killed the security guard (and ordered the death of his mistress too). Grant’s mistress died in the bomb vest explosion before she could give Eric and Locke any sort of lead or information (meaning no East July).. and a few other things.
So yeah, some notable changes. You can see how the earlier episodes were kinda building up Henry to the big bad / puppet master of the whole thing. That’s why they went with the reveal in episode 3 and spent the next couple episodes interrogating him etc. Then when they changed course, it made all of that feel pointless and it changed Tony’s scenes too. (And this is not even mentioning the Veronica Cartwright being cut/recast thing – Gerald McRaney filmed five episodes of scenes in one week). I kind of get the feeling that production was a complete mess.
Unfortunately we’ll probably never know the full extent of what changed and why. The DVD’s seem to get worse and more barebones every single time, we probably won’t get audio commentaries or anything. I hope we find out what happened some day.
Bluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 5:12 pmBig Boss
April 13, 2017 at 9:11 pmThis? Entire subplots turn on a dime from episode to episode or just disappear without explanation. It really feels like they had no idea where each subplot was driving toward, or (apparently) like they had to completely rewrite entire episodes as they went. I also read somewhere that a lot of scenes were added to early episodes because there weren’t enough character moments – things like the phone call between Rebecca and Andy right after Mullins chewed him out. And still other scenes crucial to actually understanding the characters’ motivations – Tony’s scenes – are just canned for no reason.
And I love Major Dad as much as anyone, but I can’t for the life of me think of a more pointless character in 24, ever. Five full fucking episodes spent interrogating him about something the audience already knows, and which the characters don’t even need to stop the terrorists. Then in one phone call he spits it out anyway and the person he was protecting just fucks off, never to be seen again. How would the story be any different if he wasn’t in the show at all?
Any chance you could share those scripts at some point? Would be good info to add on the 24 wiki!
24 Spoilers
April 15, 2017 at 4:50 pmNot hard to do since they’re just a few pages each, but it’s more time consuming than simply uploading the PDF’s. I think it’s very interesting to see how things were changed (mostly for worse, unfortunately).
Jack Power
April 16, 2017 at 9:45 amAlso In episode 4 Henry told John that he was blackmail by the terrorists because his company manager bought oil from ISIS while Henry didn’t even know about this. So he could easly fire his manager because he did illegal things and then the terrorists couldn’t blackmail him. His excuse sound stupid so I though it’s likely that he is hiding something big and maybe he has a big role in this. but the writers decide not to do it and this doesn’t make any sense.
And I just read in an article that Veronica Cartwright was cast as a series regular and they just cut her entirely role and scenes, I even remember a trailer or a behind the scene of 24 Legacy that they show her in it. I don’t remember a person that was cast as a series regular who was entirely cut from a show. WTF!
It’s look like the writers rewrite too much and the producers change a lot of scenes and for the worst. I thought that someone in a high position or a mole is working with the terrorists like almost other season of 24, but they didn’t done this and they don’t have any more cliffhanger in the end of the episodes and this show is mostly predictable.
If you can I would be glad if you share with as the script that you have because it’s look way more intresting than what we got now.
XAM
April 14, 2017 at 12:33 pmBand of mercenaries go on a mission to free a deposed African leader awaiting execution by the dictator who replaced him. After the success of the mission however, the people who sent them cancel their extraction – having made a deal with the dictator for natural resources in the country in exchange for the deposed dictators life and the men sent to rescue him.
Big Boss
April 14, 2017 at 11:53 pmThat would be an awesome premise for sure. As far as modern shows I think they should emulate, Strike Back is basically old-school 24 turned up to 11. The cinematography and stunt work they pulled off on (what I assume is) a miniscule budget blows this season out of the water. Any given scene from it blows away this season technically speaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYi5mk9kM7Q
XAM
April 15, 2017 at 5:09 amBig Boss
April 16, 2017 at 5:24 pmCorey has far surpassed my expectations, I especially liked him early on in the police station episode – can be intense given the right material and if he bulked up (and were given a better season) I think he’d be a solid lead. After seeing Kong though I think he’s even better suited as the techie comic relief character.
Tyler
April 13, 2017 at 10:05 amWang
April 13, 2017 at 11:25 amGerry Mander
April 16, 2017 at 3:35 pm1) Keep Joel Surnow as showrunner… it was never better when he ran that series.
2) End the series after a gangbusters-great sixth season… I’m fully convinced that had Surnow been showrunner and the writers knew going in that the sixth season was the last, I truly believe it would have turned out much, much better… maybe I’m wrong, but that’s been my gut instinct for years.
3) End the ’24’ franchise with a big-screen movie when they were still popular enough in the cultural zeitgeist to get a substantial budget for it.
Again, just my own humble, fallible, and entirely subjective opinion.
thom
April 13, 2017 at 10:07 amMaybe it’s just a Jack’s nightmare…. ??
It would be a awesome season finale!!!!
Bluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:05 amJD
April 13, 2017 at 11:53 amBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:15 amMidsomer
April 15, 2017 at 4:58 amAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:41 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:20 amBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 11:20 am24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 12:22 pmregarding the spoiler button use, easiest way is to first highlight the text you want to hide and then click the spoiler button. It’ll wrap the proper tags around whatever you have highlighted.
Jackneedstobeback
April 13, 2017 at 12:28 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 1:14 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 1:11 pm24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 1:36 pmXAM
April 13, 2017 at 2:47 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 2:55 pm24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 3:18 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 5:21 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:35 pmJB53
April 13, 2017 at 11:28 amKilling tony is the ultimate shitting on fans.
JD
April 13, 2017 at 11:51 amFrank
April 13, 2017 at 11:49 ameman
April 13, 2017 at 12:05 pmWhen Fox inevitably does 1 more season with Kiefer, they are not going to even acknowledge Legacy at all and that it ever happened.
The only positive thing to come from this disaster is maybe when Legacy is out on Blu-Ray, that the first 6 seasons will be as well.
Wang
April 13, 2017 at 12:53 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 1:16 pmFrank
April 13, 2017 at 2:11 pmFrank
April 13, 2017 at 2:26 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 2:37 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 2:45 pmIt’s over. They had no intention of honoring Tony’s character–just more BS and lies.
Frank
April 13, 2017 at 2:53 pmJD
April 13, 2017 at 2:53 pm“I know my actions have cost a lot of lives–I accept that–and I’ve accepted the fact that I’m going to die in this prison. But, if I could do this–if I could save even…ONE life on the outside…then maybe I’d feel worthy of my wife’s love again.”
Beautiful words and it felt like the old Tony again…and they flushed all this down the drain for “Tony the merc” cameo scenes with ZERO backstory revealed.
What an utter fckup.
They could have EASILY had Tony’s character doing missions to atone for his past sins without having to “confuse” all those “new audience members”. Simply have Rebecca say: “We use him for our off-the-books missions. He did some terrible things in the past and wants to atone for those actions.”
Simple. It has a great effect: pleases us Tony fans and perks the interest of the “new audience” (all ten of them) to look into the older seasons of 24. That simple.
Frank
April 13, 2017 at 3:04 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 5:29 pmXAM
April 14, 2017 at 12:40 pmIn Season 6, nobody knew who Fayed’s brother was as we’d never seen him on screen. Now just imagine, if Fayed’s brother had been Marwan or Syed Ali how much more awesome Jack’s “say hello to your brother” line would’ve been, furthermore it would’ve given new viewers a reason to go back and indulge in earlier seasons.
andy
April 13, 2017 at 3:15 pmMelvin
April 13, 2017 at 3:42 pm24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 3:44 pmFrank
April 13, 2017 at 3:50 pmMelvin
April 13, 2017 at 4:25 pmJack Power
April 13, 2017 at 4:10 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOV-riNBeDQ
24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 4:20 pmHe has maybe one minute of footage after this.
Frank
April 13, 2017 at 5:05 pmJB53
April 13, 2017 at 5:50 pmBluetooth Group
April 13, 2017 at 6:05 pmJackneedstobeback
April 13, 2017 at 6:36 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 9:20 pm24 Spoilers
April 16, 2017 at 9:25 pmeman
April 13, 2017 at 4:58 pmBluetooth Group
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April 13, 2017 at 5:13 pmKurt Cobain
April 13, 2017 at 6:57 pmBluetooth Group
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April 13, 2017 at 6:17 pmMelvin
April 13, 2017 at 6:24 pm24 Spoilers
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April 13, 2017 at 7:27 pmMelvin
April 14, 2017 at 7:55 amAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:33 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 9:22 pmJohnGormleyJG
April 13, 2017 at 6:45 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 6:58 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 6:50 pm24 Spoilers
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April 13, 2017 at 9:04 pmJoel
April 13, 2017 at 9:11 pm24 Spoilers
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April 14, 2017 at 7:21 amFrank
April 13, 2017 at 9:07 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 9:09 pmFrank
April 13, 2017 at 9:13 pmandy
April 13, 2017 at 10:22 pm24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 9:53 pmI personally think the Tony stuff was the highlight of the finale, those first five minutes or so were the only time I was on the edge of my seat. It’s a cool action scene.
But if you’re expecting some epic scene with Tony saving the day, or having his backstory explained, getting redemption, or some cliffhanger where he’s tasked with rescuing Jack from Russia or whatever… best to lower your expectations ahead of time. Tony is basically used to make Eric look good and then is written out a couple minutes into the episode.
andy
April 13, 2017 at 10:23 pm24 Spoilers
April 13, 2017 at 11:09 pmRight after their fight Tony gets the phone call which causes him to back off. He tells Eric something like ‘i would’ve went with you to save Rebecca but you broke my damn arm.’ And Eric replies “Well you left me with no choice.” Then Tony and Sidra leave. End of Tony storyline.
And please make sure to use the spoiler tags when discussing this stuff andy since it hasn’t aired yet.
JD
April 14, 2017 at 8:20 amIdiots…
andy
April 14, 2017 at 2:01 pm24 Spoilers
April 14, 2017 at 3:13 pm2. Sidra then gets shot and the bullet hits her leg. Tony quickly takes off his belt and wraps it around her leg to apply pressure and prevent her from bleeding out, then leaves her safely behind a tree or something.
3. Tony and his last remaining man then continue going after Carter. Tony blows open the wall using his sticky explosive thing, it knocks Eric backwards and to the floor. (this is shown in the promo).
4. At the same time the wall is blown, Tony’s henchman kicks in the front door and Eric (who is still on the floor) shoots and kills him immediately. So now it’s just Tony and Eric left.
5. Eric runs inside a room and shuts the door while being shot at. The woman that was hired by Simms to hold Naseri’s daughter is killed in this gunfire by Tony. Eric then opens the door a crack and throws a flashbang, stunning Tony. Eric charges into the room after him and pushes him against a wall, causing Tony to drop his gun.
6. They get into a fist fight which you could see most of this fight in the videos Fox released. Eric wins by breaking Tony’s arm. right after that is when Sidra comes in the doorway limping and holding her gun at Eric. Eric thinks he’s about to be killed and closes his eyes, but then Tony’s phone rings.
7. It’s Donovan explaining how the girl Tony is trying to get is Rebecca’s only chance of living. Tony backs off and tells Eric to save Rebecca and then leaves with Sidra and it goes to the first commercial break. Tony is not seen or mentioned after that.
andy
April 15, 2017 at 9:22 amAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:31 pmMarple
April 13, 2017 at 10:28 pmBrian
April 13, 2017 at 10:46 pmMy hunch is that Tony dies before the first commercial break, it is an obvious death that no one could return from (e.g. shot 26 times, bleeds a gallon of blood, or Tony says something as he dies “look after my son”) and the silent clock lets us know that he is dead.
Joshua
April 14, 2017 at 3:05 amCraig Blakey
April 14, 2017 at 9:46 am24 Spoilers
April 14, 2017 at 3:32 pmCan’t explain why without spoiling the big moment, But I disagree with the direction they went in this finale. It didn’t anger me, just left me even less interested in seeing it continue. At the end of the season, we’re left with paper thin characters that haven’t been developed and no interesting setup for future installments.
If the show gets cancelled, I don’t think it’s the end of 24 for good. I suspect a couple years down the line after Designated Survivor is finished that we’ll see one last miniseries with Kiefer, Mary Lynn, etc.
XAM
April 15, 2017 at 5:02 amBluetooth Group
April 14, 2017 at 12:58 pm24 Spoilers
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April 14, 2017 at 2:45 pmChlojack
April 15, 2017 at 11:17 am24 Spoilers
April 15, 2017 at 2:02 pmIt’s quite telling that everyone is concerned about Tony’s safety but practically nobody seems to care about any of the new characters like Rebecca or Donovan.
Chlojack
April 15, 2017 at 2:04 pmMelvin
April 15, 2017 at 2:58 pm24 Spoilers
April 15, 2017 at 4:42 pmNow think about all the stuff Rebecca has went through in the last few hours – shot at and nearly blown up by Naseri in the CTU attack in episode 9. Her husband is taken by the bad guys. She’s almost burned alive in episode 10. She attempted suicide in episode 11 and nearly bled out to death. And now the season finale revolves around saving her from being executed on a live internet broadcast. So why doesn’t anybody seem to care about her?
The most recent episode ended with Eric being trapped inside a house and surrounded in a 4-on-1 fight and nobody’s asking me if Eric survives or how he gets out of it. John Donovan is all alone in the same room as evil Donald Simms and yet nobody is asking me about John’s safety. Henry Donovan is still out there, Luis is on the run and nobody is asking me about them either. As said above, the finale revolves around rescuing Rebecca and yet nobody even seems to care. Everyone is just asking me about Tony, who has had maybe like 15 minutes of total screen time this season.
Just an interesting observation. 24: Legacy’s new characters don’t seem to be connecting with the audience.
XAM
April 15, 2017 at 5:29 pm“I’m not the biggest fan of Jack Bauer, I don’t like *bla bla*, but after midnight last night, you won’t get me to disapprove of a single action he’s taken.”
Right there!
JD
April 15, 2017 at 6:04 pmJD
April 15, 2017 at 6:03 pmI’ve never even fast forwarded/skipped through any of Kim’s Season 2 scenes or even any of the Marylynne Bauer scenes from Season 6. Not even the Milo/Doyle/Nadia stuff….yet I’ve been skipping and skipping away at every episode of Legacy so far.
andy
April 16, 2017 at 10:23 amJD
April 15, 2017 at 5:59 pmI don’t know about you, but I cared about quite a few characters in 24 Season 1. I care for NONE of the Legacy characters. NONE of them.
andy
April 16, 2017 at 11:42 amBarbwire
April 19, 2017 at 6:29 pmMidsomer
April 16, 2017 at 2:15 amAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 9:25 pm24 Spoilers
April 16, 2017 at 9:32 pmXAM
April 14, 2017 at 2:13 pmBrian
April 14, 2017 at 9:51 pmI also doubt that Jimmy Smits wants anything further to do with this soon to be defunct franchise.
Joshua
April 14, 2017 at 11:05 pmAcer4666
April 15, 2017 at 12:52 pmandy
April 15, 2017 at 1:02 pmJD
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April 15, 2017 at 6:02 pmFrank
April 15, 2017 at 8:59 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:24 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:42 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 12:48 pmI have a feeling there will be a “major death” even though I don’t think there really has to be. I know its a hallmark of 24 but that’s one of the things I do believe is unnecessary and something I see as a negative.
andy
April 16, 2017 at 4:46 pmJordan Diederich
April 16, 2017 at 5:47 pmAsian Rebel
April 16, 2017 at 11:47 pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEa0MVwUDDY
andy
April 17, 2017 at 3:17 amAsian Rebel
April 19, 2017 at 8:46 pmFrank
April 17, 2017 at 1:21 pmClaudi
April 17, 2017 at 10:22 pmBarbwire
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