24: Legacy showrunners Evan Katz and Manny Coto did a couple interviews regarding the finale. We’re working on summarizing the juicy bits — this post will be updated soon — but check the links at the bottom of all the interviews right now.
Original Time Jump Idea – Carter, Tony, and Rebecca teaming up to kill Bin-Khalid in Yemen
Manny Coto revealed that the final arc was originally going to take place overseas in Yemen.
Might as well say it because it’s fun to muse on, but we were going to end the season with Carter, and possibly Tony and Rebecca, going back to Yemen to take out Bin-Khalid. That was going to be the time jump. We didn’t have the full story worked out there, but Carter and Almeida were going to work together. Maybe Rebecca didn’t make it back, but that was the original plan for the last three episodes.
But this idea with the DNI seemed much more interesting to us; much more powerful and emotional. Whereas the other one was a giant action set piece, and having to reset a lot. This felt more interesting and touched on more current events and was suggested by the presidential campaign: whether we could target terrorists’ families. That seemed like too interesting a topic not to attack. And it allowed for Carter and Almeida to clash in a more interesting way. And it allowed Carter to see the other side of how elements of the government work.
Tony’s role was intentionally minimized:
But, again, we were very cognizant all the way through that this had to be just a series about these new characters. That’s why we waited to bring Tony in. It wouldn’t have been right to make him more integral to the ending than he is. It has to be about Carter and Rebecca and Donovan. – Evan Katz
A “pretty generic new character” was retrofitted to be Tony Almeida:
We knew when Carter was going to rescue the girl, he had to come up against some kind of opposition. Originally it was going to be pretty generic, a new character who was going to be called in and be the face of this team. Then the inspiration hit: Why not make it Almeida? He’s the perfect man to be hired for this. Once that clicked, it became perfect, to put Almeida up against Carter. – Manny Coto
Tony and Carter were originally going to team up:
The original idea was for them to end up working together in a fairly different ending. This is just the way 24 works is these stories just kind of evolve organically. When the final twist of learning that Simms had been conducting this illegal targeting of terrorists’ families, that we realized it would be great if he was also working with Almeida, because Almeida was doing covert work with Rebecca. That naturally put him in a position to clash, which I think, personally, is more interesting than just a buddy comedy. – Manny Coto
Rebecca probably broke Tony out in 24: Solitary; Tony’s redemption arc was saved for a possible second season:
We had done this little video in the Live Another Day DVD where he’s released by somebody, although we don’t know who. In our minds, it could have been Rebecca, because she needed him for stuff they didn’t want to get their hands dirty with. Almeida would have signed onto this in my mind to begin a slow coming back to the light — although he’s working in the dark to get there. It’s the first steps of a character’s journey out of darkness. We didn’t want to go all the way because, God willing, if there’s another season, there’s a lot of fun to be had with Tony, and telling the journey of a man who’s trying to come back to make some good in this world. – Manny Coto
Q: Can you commit to the idea that we’ve reached an end to Tony’s depths, at least as far as him killing innocent people in order to pursue vengeance? Would you ever make Tony quite that dark again?
A: Probably not, but you never know where the story takes us. But I would guess not. He’s been there. He’s trying to work his way out. We would give him another reason to live. Sidra (Moran Atias) was someone who was important to his life, and so is Rebecca. The idea is maybe next year, God willing, the reaction to Rebecca’s death could open up a pretty emotional place for him and how he reacts to that. – Manny Coto
Manny Coto wanted a happy ending for Live Another Day:
The season swims in a pretty dark place, but we thought it would be interesting to end in a happier place. That was the original conception for Live Another Day. I always wanted to end it on a happy note. But creatively, things went a different direction, with Bauer going to Russia. In this incarnation, I was bound and determined that that wasn’t going to happen, that Carter was going to find some happiness at the end of all of this. – Manny Coto
The idea for the finale came up while writing episode 10:
The story of the finale really started back in episode 10, when we revealed that the Director of National Intelligence engaged in a covert program to grab the families of terrorists. We knew this was going to be the last few episodes of the season, where we would resolve that issue and turn the season on its head. That’s where it was. When that idea hit, the final episode we realized was going to be about Eric Carter setting this right — and in doing so, he would try to get Rebecca back alive.
Rebecca’s death wasn’t planned until very late:
Right around the middle of the season, we had an inkling. We didn’t know for sure right up until the very end. It started to be a possibility because of where the Donovan (Jimmy Smits) and Rebecca storyline was going. – Manny Coto
Uncle Luis not showing up in the finale and potentially being in Season 2:
We have plans. We had plans that were replaced by better alternatives, but there’s a whole Uncle Luis saga in the recycle bin that we can pull in. – Evan Katz
Proud to not have any moles at CTU:
We were bound and determined not to have any moles at CTU. We achieved our goal. – Manny Coto
Showrunner is “so creatively pleased” with how the show turned out:
I think we’re hopeful [for a second season], but you never know. I wish the ratings were stronger. I’m just so creatively pleased with the way the show turned out and the reaction from the people who are watching the show. I think it would be a crime to not renew it and give it one more shot. But you never know. – Manny Coto
Renewal Prospects:
It’s certainly a possibility. I think we’ll find out somewhere around May, but we’re certainly hopeful. We have plenty of ideas of what a second season would look like. The studio and the network liked the show, they think it was a good show. We’ll just have to see. – Evan Katz
Potential 24: Legacy Season 2 Ideas
There are ideas that we’ve floated around. We all know where we want to take the next season. I could say pretty confidently that it would probably be Eric as a CTU agent, and my guess is it would be in a place that’s not necessarily the U.S. As a young agent, he’s stuck somewhere. He’s not getting the choicest assignments. It might be fun [to focus on] someone in some backwater CTU station who ends up stumbling on a larger plot that could bring down the country. My feeling for next season would be something where the country is at stake in a large way. It involves Jimmy Smits and the country and his presidency. It would hopefully go big, and be more along the lines of Live Another Day, and be larger than life and still explore relationships, like Eric and his wife. Are they still together? Are they not? – Manny Coto
Larger stakes
COTO: Listen, we haven’t gotten far enough into season 2 to really tell you. All I would throw out is that there is a general feeling that 24 is best when it’s reflecting what’s going on in the world, but at the same time not doing a ripped-from-the-headlines story. There is a feeling of unease and unsettledness in the country: Is the government functioning the way it should be? Is the world going off a cliff? I think that would be something to really explore in season 2. I personally would lobby for larger stakes and literally the future of the country at stake, but taking advantage of this idea that there is something wrong with the government from the inside and that the world is reacting to this and Carter’s in the middle of it. There’s something there to be done, without getting into plot. Personally, a larger world crisis would be the way to go and would be really fascinating.
Location change?
There’s definitely some cool ideas for season 2 on the table and where we’d like to go — a totally different direction from season 1 and finding Eric in a different place and definitely with a role for Tony Almeida, possibly even playing the same role for Eric that he played for Rebecca or even on Donovan. We definitely want to see Tony back. I, personally, would love to see Chloe, because it would be fun to start bringing these characters back in.
More original character returns planned for season 2:
That was always the plan: Let’s just get this season going and then slowly introduce people from the past, have Carter kind of meet these individuals one-by-one.
But aside from Tony, there are now other characters we’d love to [bring in]. Chloe [Mary Lynn Rajskub], we’d love to see again. There’s a lot of fun to be had with other characters. – Manny Coto
Tony will be back
John Donovan’s “soul is in play”
Obviously, this decision to stay in the race and go along with the cover-up opens up the door for this to become an issue further down the road in a potential season 2, right?
Certainly. I think that’s what’s interesting. He is gonna be able to do good and become president, but he has compromised himself. That’s going to come back in some way or another to hurt him. For us, Donovan’s soul is now in play. In the last act of episode 12, he told an outright lie to the FBI agent. So, he is taking a dark path and where he will end up going is something we’ll explore hopefully in season 2. – Manny Coto
Carter and Donovan’s Relationship
Carter has a relationship with John now. If John does become president, how will you play with that?
Coto: Certainly we set it up for a reason and we want there to definitely be a relationship between the two characters to develop further. But what the nature of that is, what that will look like in Season 2, we have yet to really establish. It really depends on what Season 2 becomes.
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Comments ClosedXAM
April 17, 2017 at 11:59 pmMe (and probably the rest of you): Erm… What?!
Brad
April 18, 2017 at 12:05 amHank
April 18, 2017 at 8:01 pmGerry Mander
April 19, 2017 at 6:56 amSo at least we now know, based on those interviews, that it’s not that the writers can’t come up with fresh new ideas, it’s just they won’t USE them for the most part… anyone looking forward to a second season of Legacy with this same writing team?
I thought not.
XAM
April 18, 2017 at 12:03 amTJ
April 18, 2017 at 12:38 amClearly, their visions of what works is different than what fans of the original show have. If they think another season of Corey Hawkins in the lead is worth spending money on, I hope FOX has the brains to say otherwise. This joke of a reboot was nothing more than a lame effort that tarnished the show’s real legacy more than it honored it.
Hank
April 18, 2017 at 8:00 pmXAM
April 18, 2017 at 12:08 amGeneral feeling from who?!
I, personally, would love to see Chloe, because it would be fun to start bringing these characters back in.
Dear fucking Christ, no!!! Double no to an inevitable snarky tech-off with Andy. There’s only one legit reason to bring back Chloe, and that’s to kill her… preferably in a horrible way.
Personally, a larger world crisis would be the way to go and would be really fascinating.
Except no.
There you have it folks, you’ve hated this past season, and now you’re getting an insight into how the mind of the clueless fuckwit who created it works.
Brian
April 18, 2017 at 1:53 amThere is no creativity here, there is no believably. All of the ideas in the show are either rehashed from other seasons, or so far fetched to be conceivable; and is distracting.
Watching the last few shows felt like a chore. Or like sitting in a stadium when everyone else has filed out to get out of the parking lot and I am holding out hoping that the home team would have an amazing comeback. Unfortunately I feel like a fool now and feel like I wasted my time.
Kevin
April 18, 2017 at 12:28 amTJ
April 18, 2017 at 12:44 amRalph
April 18, 2017 at 12:36 amTJ
April 18, 2017 at 12:42 am24 Spoilers
April 18, 2017 at 12:45 amThey proudly described a bunch of ways they made Legacy worse, talk about holding back stuff for another season which looks increasingly unlikely at this point, confirm that practically nothing was planned this year and all just made up last minute… ugh.
And it really seems like they don’t have any clear direction for a potential second season.
Joel
April 18, 2017 at 1:16 amBig Boss
April 18, 2017 at 1:40 am24 Spoilers
April 18, 2017 at 11:20 amMost of those things could’ve and should’ve happened organically in this season. Trying to shoehorn these scrapped ideas and loose ends into a second season would feel extremely forced, especially if it moves to a different country and has the typical ~2 year time jump.
The Tony ideas in particular feel really forced to me. He had no connection to anyone except Rebecca, who is now dead. Why would he be working with, or for, a rookie CTU field agent that he only interacted with for like two minutes?
And given the time jump they’d probably do, why would Tony still be grieving/angry over losing his ex-girlfriend Rebecca from “a long time ago,” someone that he didn’t even really care enough to save in Legacy? He helped CTU ping Rebecca’s phone but that’s all, he quickly moved on and took a job for Simms like 20 minutes later. They never established some really deep relationship between them. Tony cared about her, but seemingly not that much.
And it’s not even like they have an interesting angle with Tony/Eric teaming up trying to hunt down Rebecca’s escaped killer in another country. That was wrapped up, we know that Bin-Khalid is dead.
I just don’t feel like they laid the proper groundwork for most of these ideas to work (in a natural way). Bringing back Tony, Chloe, other characters, trying to recreate the Palmer/Jack relationship etc all just seems like blatant fan service rather than a compelling new direction.
Gerry Mander
April 19, 2017 at 10:42 am24 Spoilers
April 19, 2017 at 1:39 pmBut it seems like they had absolutely no clue what would happen beyond the pilot. Charlie Hofheimer (Ben Grimes) said “I had heard there were permutations of the script where Grimes had died in Episode 2.”
So even the very first arc sounds like it was up in the air.
Joshua
April 18, 2017 at 1:00 amOlaf the still Hunter
April 18, 2017 at 1:27 amDid 24 writers forget she killed 300 some people in the 24 pilot when she blew up the Boeing 747? Justice is still being demanded over 21 years later.
Big Boss
April 18, 2017 at 1:35 amSending Eric and Tony overseas the last three episodes would’ve been a perfect way to jump ahead twelve hours and actually, you know, take advantage of the fact that you don’t have to show every second of the day? Like you said would be an exciting new aspect of Live Another Day? Who knows how it would have panned out but just reading about it gets me more pumped than anything they actually did with these last six hours.
And that dropped idea about a entire network of hostage terrorist families would have been way more compelling than what they actually did – seems pretty clear they wrote the episodes with that as the basis, since as it stands it makes absolutely no sense that Simms would go to such extremes to cover it up over one girl. In general they did a terrible job of establishing why it was such a horrible crime he would want to cover up to begin with. They should have done something to show that Ara/these hypothetical family members were being subjected to inhumane treatment or torture, as that would present a genuinely difficult moral dilemma with regard to Rebecca/Simms’ actions. Instead, a girl has to live in a cabin with a nanny telling her to go to bed at 10 p.m. so that there might be a way to stop an animal who saws off heads down the road. Sorry, I have a hard time getting upset over that.
(On top of that it’s ridiculous that a sitting U.S. senator married to someone in the IC would be so naive and ignorant as to be shocked at what goes on in counterintelligence – but that’s a rant for another day)
It’s hard to escape the feeling that they came up with a bunch of really interesting story arcs and then systematically figured out every way to neuter or cheapen them.
Nicholas Galvante
April 18, 2017 at 2:14 amJohnGormleyJG
April 18, 2017 at 6:16 amJoeV1998
April 18, 2017 at 6:44 amChris
April 18, 2017 at 7:53 amPlus the actress sadly passed away a few years back
JoeV1998
April 18, 2017 at 4:20 pmJD
April 18, 2017 at 6:56 am-The time jump actually meaning something integral for the story and taking the show to another country within ONE season (this hasn’t been done since Season three that took place in both US and Mexico)
-Redeem Tony. They opted, instead, to drag his redemption arc out through several seasons (probably out of a fear that us old fans will leave as soon as his story closes). No wonder he barely had a role this season and barely had any sort of redemption outside acting “nicer”. I’m fine with a Tony redemption (I’ve been wanting it for years) but dragging it out like THIS?
-Happy ending. I LOVE the irony here. They were never concerned about giving Jack or Tony happy or conclusive endings but were stumbling over themselves to do it for some new character that hardly anyone cared about.
Very disappointed here.
So now we’re left in a similar predicament as we were with LAD:
-They had a chance to bring Jack back and close his story: failed to do so.
-They had a chance to redeem Tony and failed to do so, opting instead to give us a little PIECE of improvement for Tony (“Oh, well at least he’s not killing innocents or committing terrorist attacks anymore! Just a merc for hire! That’s progress, fans!” PFFFTT!!!)
-Closing the story.
Now we may never see a new 24 season and will be stuck with a 1% redeemed Tony, no Jack closure and everything pretty much in limbo.
Chris
April 18, 2017 at 7:19 amBrad
April 18, 2017 at 7:28 amJD
April 18, 2017 at 7:38 amThere are a myriad of possible scenarios. Not trying to be a d!ck here, but use your imagination, guys. This Russian situation isn’t much different from his Chinese situation, after all, so I don’t know why people are acting like this is so different.
Brad
April 18, 2017 at 7:44 amJD
April 18, 2017 at 7:45 amChlojack
April 18, 2017 at 11:46 amCody
April 18, 2017 at 11:39 pmBrad
April 18, 2017 at 7:56 amThe quality of Jack’s ending is…arguable. It lacks catharsis and discernible closure, but it’s actually very full circle. Season one is about Jack trying to keep his family together and live a normal life while rejecting the darker aspects of his personality. His journey throughout the series is one of loss and isolation. At the very end of season 9, Jack wholeheartedly accepts that he can never have his family and never lead a normal life. He no longer attempts to bury the darker aspects of his personality (hence, why he so easily throws Margot out a window). His isolation is complete when he baords the helicopter. And he’s *relieved* about it. That’s an ending.
Marlon
April 18, 2017 at 7:59 amJay
April 18, 2017 at 8:27 amThe 24 writers seem to go to the same well over and over again. Although the gasoline field was unique, I couldn’t ignore the similarity to the Wembley Stadium / Heller drone scene in LAD.
Btownfritz
April 18, 2017 at 3:26 pmShaun Clark
April 18, 2017 at 8:36 amI really hope it’s back next year, and also, I would love a 24 episodes, instead of 12 as with 12 episodes, they is not enough storylines and action and also stories with characters! :)
Alex
April 18, 2017 at 8:41 amPlease just make a standalone season for Tony Almeida and Chloe O’Brian….
Chris
April 18, 2017 at 11:00 amOverall really don’t care much for Legacy, and I’ve been a fan since the beginning of 24. I think it should come back only if Kiefer Sutherland ever decided he wants to reprise the role of Jack Bauer and give him a ending us fans want.
andy
April 18, 2017 at 11:01 amJD
April 18, 2017 at 11:27 amBluetooth Group
April 18, 2017 at 11:39 amMilo
April 18, 2017 at 11:44 amChlojack
April 18, 2017 at 11:52 amFord Martin
April 18, 2017 at 11:52 amDan Shaw
April 18, 2017 at 11:56 am2) “a bigger threat”? NO. Those have been done to death, mostly by 24. We don’t need the whole country / world in danger, because you know from the start they bad guys won’t win. Personal threats are not only more dramatic and engaging, but they don’t have an obvious outcome.
3) Donovan as President? UGH, president storylines are always so insanely slow and mundane and repetitive, I loved Jimmy Smits (one of few upsides of this season) but we do NOT need another president storyline, which is one of the (very very) few things this season did RIGHT
andy
April 18, 2017 at 3:47 pmJack Power
April 18, 2017 at 4:36 pmAbc
April 18, 2017 at 3:56 pmTo me, the writers are just doing this now for the sake of it being 24. So many things has been disregarded and thus making this season as the most Not belivable seasons ever. Remember that scene where Carter and Donovan were driving to Simms’ office and Donovan says Carter needs to look like a secret service guy? Carter got changed and was already driving in under 10 minutes. Those little things have made this season absolute garbage. Total disregard to the real-time feature.
Marlon
April 18, 2017 at 4:12 pmThey left it all open on the ‘god willing’ hope that they get a season 2.
Get the writing right and they probably would’ve had a much better chance
Tom
April 18, 2017 at 4:20 pm“It was so much fun bringing Tony back again. Carlos is just the best! We were hoping early on the season to shed some light on Tony’s past but we realised that too much time had past and that season 1 probably would have been the best time to do that. But if the show is renewed for season 3 then maybe, just maybe we might delve into his backstory and give him more than 20 minutes screentime. We may even bring back Chloe, and other beloved characters like… eh… Chloe? Oh did I already mention her? We’ll I’m sure the fans can tell you about some of the other characters we have out there who we could bring back.
Heck, we may even bring back Jack.
It all depends on how fans react to season 2 and if they want a season 3. The future of the show rests on their shoulders. It’s their responsibility to keep the show going. Not us.”
WillAlwaysMissJack
April 18, 2017 at 6:28 pmJack Power
April 18, 2017 at 4:30 pmA lot of other shows that aren’t so good have more unpredictable thing than this. They are ignoring things that happened like the chinese guy that Kieth nock out is suddenly gone in episode 12 and they have so much plot that they didn’t tied up.
Now, you can’t believe almost everything this writers or actors says.
A month ago Cory said that there is an OMG twist at the end of this season.
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/24/news/a824028/corey-hawkins-wants-more-24-legacy-hint-shocking-season-finale/
There wasn’t any mole or someone in a high rank that work with the terrorist and the whole season was predictable ( except for episode 6 that felt like a classic 24 ) and the second half of the season had a big potential but it was bed with all the kidnaping and without any real twists and without Tony redemption.
If you have all the following 3 things it’s mean it isn’t really 24:
-The writing is lazy
-We don’t have any mention of Jack Bauer who if the writers forgot saved the day 9 times and now he is in a russian prison.
-And it’s only 12 hours and not 24.
The writers of 24 who I thought were Geniuses are now apparently lazy and I don’t believe this is the same writers of the original 24.
And i know it from the start that in this 24 Legacy they will give the hero the good ending that Jack DESERVE in LAD!
apparently this writers think that Jack who was in more than 200 episodes doesn’t deserve a good ending or any closer, but a new hero that the fan way less care and was in only 12 episode deserve a happy ending.
P.S: Naseri is the real hero in the final and he is more moral than the good guys.
Hank
April 18, 2017 at 8:26 pmNo mole. Yipppeeee. But a love triangle, some lovey dovey ctu crap, some jealousy love triangle with tony and the other two and Tony having done more in all of season 5, when he was in a coma, than he did here. But no mole. Pfffffft.
Choosing not to actually make use of the time jump with characters that are worth a damn and give us some buffoon who shoots himself that no one even cared about, wow impressive.
Dragging Tony out until a season that no one will give a damn about after this, impressive.
Promising to bring him back and others like they brought him back this year. Yeah, so great. May as well go steal some mannequins from Wal-Mart and save on budget, could easily stand them around like Tony did most of the fing season.
Oh, let’s rip off season one. Big bad is dead from mission, not.
Oh, let’s rip off season 5 and drag out the whole thumbdrive thing.
Oh, let’s rip off Dr. Phil and have characters standing around talking about their feelings 90% of the time.
After this lame ass interview where they admit they took every crappy turn possible they deserve to be put out with Dexter in the lumberjack land and never write again.
Asian Rebel
April 18, 2017 at 11:10 pmHank
April 18, 2017 at 8:42 pmLuke
April 19, 2017 at 12:13 amAnyway, here’s how I rank the seasons. Unpopular list, but here goes:
3
4
5
2
1
9
8
6
10
7
ricardo
April 19, 2017 at 12:24 amXAM
April 19, 2017 at 2:14 amMarlon
April 19, 2017 at 12:48 amHank
April 19, 2017 at 5:50 amMilo
April 19, 2017 at 1:31 pmGargar
April 19, 2017 at 2:13 pmnot the most popular opinion but here goes.
I quite enjoyed Legacy. I wasn’t able to connect to anything in S1 of 24 and I was only hooked from S2 onward.
People need to be a bit more open minded and a bit less critical.
andy
April 19, 2017 at 3:25 pmMarlon
April 19, 2017 at 6:22 pmAsian Rebel
April 19, 2017 at 8:42 pmRemember Jack went after terrorists’ families?????????? That was before all this insane political correctness and the show giving in to the liberal critics and the pressure from them.
And I was right when I said Tony was completely wasted and that could have just been any mercenary character. They’ve not done Tony any justice since bringing him back in Season 5. His story should have ended with Season 4, same with Michelle Dessler.
andy
April 20, 2017 at 4:29 amSharanRJ
April 20, 2017 at 10:37 amAcer4666
April 23, 2017 at 11:48 amX
May 6, 2017 at 4:05 amA true mole would be embedded within for a long period of time.
But this was more of a hostage situation, just like if a bank robber held a gun to your head to get you to do what they want.
Asian Rebel
April 28, 2017 at 12:55 amRemember Behrooz’s girlfriend? She plays a big part in this movie which was pretty good! It also stars Gwyneth Paltrow and Tim McGraw as the main leads.
Disha
May 3, 2017 at 1:26 pmFirst season was about one character who was like british Jack Bauer.
In second season the actor left project due to schedule conflicts and creators made two new protagonists and totally changed the mood and pace of the show. And it worked perfectly fine.
24: Legacy looks like cosplay of original 24 and that’s why it sucks so much ass.